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> Amazing, Chevy builds a 330 HP engine with 28mpg
Hawktel
post Sep 17 2005, 10:56 PM
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So the new Impalla that chevy has released has a option for a 330 HP V8 with 28 highway fuel consumption.

Thats amazing. Just amazing. I wonder how far fuel efficency can be pushed?
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post Sep 18 2005, 12:14 PM
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They are all liars!...This from Consumers Reports.

Fuel economy
Why you're not getting the mpg you expect

For years, automakers have been criticized for producing vehicles that get so-so gas mileage. But as gas prices climb and consumers seek more miles per gallon, it turns out that fuel economy is much worse than it appears--50 percent less on some models, a new Consumer Reports analysis reveals.
Drivers who track their own fuel economy have long known that their results seldom match the gas mileage claimed by the Environmental Protection Agency on new-car stickers. Our study, based on years of real-world road tests over thousands of miles, quantifies the problem across a wide swath of makes and models.

We compared the claimed EPA fuel economy with the mileage per gallon we measured for 303 cars and trucks for model-years 2000 to 2006. Our selection represents a good cross-section of mainstream, high-volume vehicles. We looked at city, highway, and overall mpg.

Highlights of our study:

• Shortfalls in mpg occurred in 90 percent of vehicles we tested and included most makes and models.

• The largest discrepancy between claimed and actual mpg involved city driving. Some models we tested fell short of claimed city mpg by 35 to 50 percent.

• Hybrids, whose selling point is fuel thriftiness, had some of the biggest disparities, with fuel economy averaging 19 mpg below the EPA city rating.

• The EPA ratings are the result of 1970s-era test assumptions that don't account for how people drive today. Automakers also test prototype vehicles that can yield better mileage than a consumer could get.

• Despite federal certification, it appears that U.S. vehicle fleets, all cars and light trucks produced in one model year, don't meet government fuel-economy standards. For example, fleet mpg for 2003-model-year vehicles we studied was overstated by 30 percent.
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Hawktel   Amazing   Sep 17 2005, 10:56 PM
Elliot Cannon   28 miles per gallon at what speed? 55? 60? ...   Sep 17 2005, 11:07 PM
Hammy   Had to be a typo http://www.914wo...   Sep 17 2005, 11:07 PM
Hammy   From Chevy site   Sep 17 2005, 11:14 PM
Twystd1   My bro has a 2003 Vette with the z06 package and a...   Sep 17 2005, 11:23 PM
DonTraver   Cadilac's (sp)   Sep 17 2005, 11:24 PM
Travis Neff   Ayup, my Dad has a the last year WS6 Trans Am with...   Sep 17 2005, 11:25 PM
redshift   Simple: The stated EPA milage is an F'ING LIE....   Sep 18 2005, 12:20 AM
sean_v8_914   I just drove a new Vette on a mini AX style track ...   Sep 18 2005, 02:10 AM
Hammy   How does the vette handle?   Sep 18 2005, 02:18 AM
TimT   Im sure the vette handles pretty well.. the assho...   Sep 18 2005, 05:42 AM
Gint     Sep 18 2005, 07:12 AM
Dr Evil   I believe it is called "variable displacement." My...   Sep 18 2005, 07:50 AM
seanery   Chrysler has been doing the multiple displacement ...   Sep 18 2005, 08:16 AM
redshift   Stop-and-Go numbers in my city, are higher than 90...   Sep 18 2005, 12:24 PM
Headrage     Sep 18 2005, 12:31 PM
bd1308   how does the system work? are the fuel injectors s...   Sep 18 2005, 12:31 PM
bd1308   ...   Sep 18 2005, 12:32 PM
snflupigus   Imagine, displacement on demand, variable compress...   Sep 18 2005, 12:41 PM
snflupigus     Sep 18 2005, 12:50 PM
anthony   How is it that manufacturers cheat by such a large...   Sep 18 2005, 12:55 PM
Pugbug   And the fuel economy winner is........The Pac car ...   Sep 18 2005, 02:30 PM
snflupigus   i used to get about 25mpg average on interstate tr...   Sep 18 2005, 03:31 PM
bd1308   on your 914 comment, I couldn't agree more. T...   Sep 18 2005, 05:17 PM
dmenche914   The 914 is light enough, so it does not need a ton...   Sep 18 2005, 05:22 PM
groot   The manufacturers don't cheat on the sticker n...   Sep 19 2005, 05:46 AM
roundboy914   not for nothing, but i think the HP rating was 303...   Sep 19 2005, 07:56 AM
andys   Though I've only put four tankfulls' since...   Sep 19 2005, 09:50 AM
snflupigus   at least comparitively they are useful... one truc...   Sep 19 2005, 10:10 AM
jniemeier   I'm new to the group, but you're on a topi...   Sep 19 2005, 01:04 PM
jd74914   very interesting. thanks   Sep 19 2005, 01:30 PM
groot   Great post, Jim!!! I hadn't read ...   Sep 19 2005, 01:46 PM
914efi   What happened to Saab's variable compression e...   Sep 19 2005, 01:58 PM
BIGKAT_83   Great post Jim.............. Thanks for the info ...   Sep 19 2005, 02:09 PM
Rotary'14   IIRC the EPA accepts data provided from the manufa...   Sep 19 2005, 04:04 PM
jniemeier   This followup will be short, I promise. Reduction ...   Sep 20 2005, 04:08 PM
Mueller   thanks Jim http://www.914wor...   Sep 20 2005, 04:20 PM
phantom914   Jim N, I have a dumb question which I ask because...   Sep 20 2005, 04:35 PM
ewdysar   As long as we're on a rant topic... OK we...   Sep 21 2005, 03:41 PM
jniemeier   First, Eric- I agree completely. We could cut the...   Sep 21 2005, 06:51 PM
phantom914   Jim, Makes sense. If an engine had individual dri...   Sep 21 2005, 11:12 PM
jniemeier   We call them ETC's: Electronic Throttle Contro...   Sep 23 2005, 07:49 PM
stock93   Jim N, Check out BMW's N73 6.0L V 12. They are...   Sep 24 2005, 08:32 AM
jniemeier   Yes, it's an amazing engine. Not the first th...   Sep 24 2005, 09:03 AM
snflupigus   Thinking of the whole torque = good for economy wi...   Sep 24 2005, 01:44 PM
Carl   Very interesting information, Jim. For a long tim...   Sep 25 2005, 01:20 AM
snflupigus   The selenoids would also have to operate at certai...   Sep 25 2005, 02:48 AM
J P Stein     Sep 26 2005, 11:15 PM
Dr. Roger  
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Dr. Roger   <...   Sep 27 2005, 09:09 PM
messix   the push rod would have as much force as it would...   Sep 27 2005, 09:18 PM
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