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> upgread power??, hi guys im new here and i need help..
bender
post Oct 4 2005, 12:26 PM
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hi guys
i want to upgread my 1973 1.8 engine
i want 2 stay with 4 cyl and i want around 150-180 hp
were can i do it?
how?
kits?
do you know prices range?
thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Oct 5 2005, 07:09 PM
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The fact of the matter is, they can't be relied on day in day out without extensive regular maintenance


YES THEY CAN!

But its all in getting them buttoned up the right way the first time and getting rid of just enough of the factory issues to make them more reliable...

The 912E engine in my DD has 87K miles on it- I drove it to the runoffs and back (1871 miles) and did not open the decklid once and have not since.. I didn't even check the oil!

That same engine was built old school-I didn't even check running clearances, just slapped it together made sure I could not catch a nail on the crankshaft, slapped some bearings in it, a set of KB 96s and built the heads and let it fly.. That was 3 years ago and 5 driver's eds ago as well... On more than one occasion at a DE at Roebling Road I rattled the rod bearings in turn 6 all the way onto the straight away and the engine still didn't die... that was about 50K miles ago..

The last time I had to adjust a valve on a check up was in Feb 2003.. I have went as much as 20K without even checking the valves!

The thing that amazes me most is 18K miles on the same oil change...... and then after an oil change another 12K before the next..

This is not limited to the 912E, either.. My Bus engine pushed a 5,000 pound beast and tows a beetle behind it and has for 5 years... I don't even keep track of mileage or maintenance- I just slide in the key and drive it and don't care if it explodes- but it don't... and it's a stroker also built primarily from used parts...

Then we have the 3 Liter bug and the 2316 in the 914 that both racked up 10K miles each this summer, neither had the first oil change and both were driven like hell. I didn't even synch the carbs on the 3 liter, nor the 914 the entire time... Even though they are both crazed R&D engines with 10+:1 CR they still were driven to and from Beth's house a couple of times each week and thats a 105 mile trip each way, and I don't drive the speed limit (especially with 235 HP)!

The problem is that most aircooled engines are misunderstood by their builders and tuners and because of that they are never fully optimized....

I have proven by not even owning anything other than an aircooled car that one can be driven in the modern world, neglected, abused and still stay alive with no particular maintenance- true facts are true facts and I have the odometers and log books to prove it..

General statements about aircooled engines not being reliable is BS... Anything thats never optimized, not thoroughly designed and half way assembled will constantly need tuning- watercooled or aircooled, it don't matter!
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bender   upgread power??   Oct 4 2005, 12:26 PM
Headrage   Go here and check your options.   Oct 4 2005, 12:29 PM
jimkelly   The short answer is... First I'd say reasearc...   Oct 4 2005, 12:32 PM
bender   i watched jake's site probebly he is very rely...   Oct 4 2005, 12:59 PM
SirAndy   <...   Oct 4 2005, 12:59 PM
SirAndy     Oct 4 2005, 01:00 PM
Cap'n Krusty     Oct 4 2005, 01:06 PM
bender   so my man is the raby? thanks   Oct 4 2005, 02:47 PM
Jake Raby   Think I'm expensive??? Make a few dozen mista...   Oct 4 2005, 02:49 PM
bender   ...   Oct 4 2005, 03:09 PM
tat2dphreak   try pricing the parts seperately that jake uses in...   Oct 4 2005, 03:50 PM
Mueller     Oct 4 2005, 05:11 PM
bender     Oct 4 2005, 05:16 PM
Mueller     Oct 4 2005, 05:19 PM
bender     Oct 4 2005, 05:39 PM
Mueller     Oct 4 2005, 05:45 PM
Jake Raby   Yep- If you are a first timer, don't even thin...   Oct 4 2005, 05:49 PM
bender   ...   Oct 4 2005, 06:12 PM
Mueller     Oct 4 2005, 06:23 PM
Headrage     Oct 4 2005, 06:24 PM
Tobra   FI vs carbs, once the FI is set up right, it will ...   Oct 4 2005, 06:33 PM
Andyrew   Another thing you can do is do an engine swap.... ...   Oct 4 2005, 10:38 PM
Jake Raby   If the Subaru was aircooled I'd say go for it....   Oct 4 2005, 11:01 PM
MattR   ...   Oct 4 2005, 11:03 PM
Jake Raby   Thanks.. Some days I'm a better asshole than o...   Oct 5 2005, 12:11 AM
Brett W   Heritage or not you can't beat Physics. Water...   Oct 5 2005, 09:13 AM
Jake Raby   So physics is why you drive a rice burner... Figur...   Oct 5 2005, 10:21 AM
lapuwali   ...   Oct 5 2005, 11:06 AM
Jake Raby   But those aren't VWs... they may have the logo...   Oct 5 2005, 11:42 AM
Andyrew   ...   Oct 5 2005, 02:19 PM
Jake Raby   Well it wasn't a personal attack.. Those invol...   Oct 5 2005, 02:41 PM
Mueller   you gotta love the fact that Jake is a hardcore lo...   Oct 5 2005, 03:01 PM
Andyrew   Jake when I said purist, I ment the fact that your...   Oct 5 2005, 03:31 PM
Jake Raby   I like simplicity and it doesn't get much simp...   Oct 5 2005, 04:10 PM
scott thacher   yup, its all the simplicity of it, how many hours ...   Oct 5 2005, 04:24 PM
Rand   I noticed this same "upgread" upgrade thread has b...   Oct 5 2005, 04:28 PM
Mueller     Oct 5 2005, 04:58 PM
Jake Raby  
  Oct 5 2005, 05:08 PM
banksyinoz   settle guys arent we all here to enjoy our 914s wh...   Oct 5 2005, 05:19 PM
Andyrew   Fieros would be cool, if they where a porsche, had...   Oct 5 2005, 05:27 PM
Jake Raby   Well... Slap a Subaru engine in a Fiero... Part ...   Oct 5 2005, 05:34 PM
banksyinoz   i have the suby conversion in my 914 ...   Oct 5 2005, 06:27 PM
trekkor   I have always liked the aircooled motors I've ...   Oct 5 2005, 06:45 PM
Andyrew   from my 10 second research of bakelite, it is a pl...   Oct 5 2005, 06:48 PM
Jake Raby  
  Oct 5 2005, 07:09 PM BIGKAT_83   Jake I have a cabin up in White county off of Bean...   Oct 5 2005, 07:24 PM
Jake Raby   You go right by my shop and don't even known i...   Oct 5 2005, 08:00 PM
banksyinoz   sounds like you have all the fun jake do the local...   Oct 5 2005, 08:04 PM
Jake Raby   They used to complain... Years ago the first time ...   Oct 5 2005, 08:09 PM
Andyrew   Youll have the opportunity to buy more land soon.....   Oct 5 2005, 08:13 PM
banksyinoz   damn i might have to make a trip over just to see ...   Oct 5 2005, 08:16 PM
Jake Raby  
  Oct 5 2005, 09:21 PM
Brett W   I drive rice because it is cheap, reliable and fas...   Oct 6 2005, 02:39 AM
Twystd1   This is a good time to bite my lip and shut the Fu...   Oct 6 2005, 03:41 AM
Jake Raby  
  Oct 6 2005, 09:21 AM
Brett W  
  Oct 6 2005, 10:24 AM
trekkor     Oct 6 2005, 10:44 AM
trekkor   Getting big HP will be expensive... Drive what yo...   Oct 6 2005, 10:49 AM
Jake Raby   Yep- I just realized how bad we hijacked this one....   Oct 6 2005, 10:49 AM
bug man nrg   type4 can turbo for quite cheap if you have the t...   Oct 6 2005, 11:50 AM


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