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Rog914 |
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914 Fanatic ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Reisterstown,Md Member No.: 93 ![]() |
Flat labor rate $4,000
New parts $7,500 Crating charge $ 150 Core charge Total estimated cost $11,650 Inclusive Opions: Dyno tuning, (In lieu of warranty) $350 Cryogenic enhancement (partial) $262 Standard blueprinting service $550 Severe duty valve train $450 Extensive Dyno Testing $500 Composite lifters (if available) $600 Mallory Unilite Distributor $329 Optional items, (not included in "Total estimated cost") above: $400 Crygenic treatment upgrade (full engine treatment) $275 Ion Nitrided crankshaft $125 Lightened flywheel $2,800 Upgrade to programmable EFI $810 Performance engine coatings package (thermal barrier, friction reduction & heat dispersants) $2,000 LN Engineering Nickies cylinders (if available) $1,250 914 DTM upgrade $145 Full flow oiling system upgrades $92 6 puck performance cluch disc Total Option price: $7,897 Total price of engine & all options: $19,547 (not including exhaust & shipping) This would have been heck of a 2270cc engine with everything. I wish I could of afforded it. Yes, I'm the last to have backed out of a Raby engine. I'm not here to bash Jake, just tell "the other side of the story" Started in 1-5-05 with a phone call from Jake to talk what I wanted in an engine. Told him I wanted a 2270cc and what would cost to have one with all the bells & whilses. With Nickies, all performance coatings. He gives me a "rough" estimate of $11,000. 1-6-05 I sent my $200 deposit for an engine build. He calls every now & then, and chat for awhile. Calls 2 month ago, tells me looked over the engine and everything looked good except for the heads cracked but should be salvageable and will cost a little more to repair them. Nothing more was said about money until he calls to say my spot is getting ready and E-mailed the proposal. The whole time I'm thinking about $11,000. When I see my all "bells & whisles" engine to be $19,547. Sorry but that's way off even for a "rough" estimate. I just can't afford that at this time. Jake builds super engines and has done alot for the 914 community. I just wish he would be more truthful with his estimates. Even on this board he stated "Anywhere from 7K clear to 14.5K could be end the end result." When $19,547 is the end result as his propsal states above. As far as I'm concerned I should of had the propsal in January when I put my deposit down, not at the last minute when to find out the estimate nearly doubled. Now that's the rest of the story. Ralph |
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Mid-Engn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,337 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Meares.
When you purchase any high end stuff, think like a business. There are procedures for qualifing customers. The first rule is a complete quote of the service/product. Jake & customer should go over the written quote item for item. Both sign off after they agree to price, terms of payment, delivery (big one). If necessasry a businessman will take a credit check if in doubt. There are many ways for Jake to protect his cash flow. Example, 10% at time of order, payment in full when parts are received then progress payments as work progresses. Remember everything starts with a clear understanding at the time of the purchase order. Forgot to mention it's common to have change orders along the way. They must be signed off before starting work. This is just an example. Just good business 101. From what I understand everything went wrong when they both didn't communicate. I really feel bad for Ralph, he probabally thought he was getting all the bells & whissels (spell??) & saved for his quoted $11K dream engine. Jake is the businessman and gone through this many times. Shame on him for not guiding his customer along. After hearing all these things, Jake should take more responsibilty for his actions. He treated the problem like the world was against him. This other side of the story tells us different. Tom Off my soap box. There are other engine builders out there. We need to develop a list for our guys so they have a choice. |