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So I can't (and won't) argue with Jake's policies or pricing. Hell, I helped publicize his acheivements and remain very impressed by them. So let's NOT DEBATE THEM here -- please take that to another thread.
In the meantime, though, I think $5,000 (carbs and ignition included?) seems a far more approachable number for a lot of people. I wouldn't expect to get anything but short-lived junk for $1,300 to $2,600 -- unless I was building it myself. So what are the possibilities at $5,000 to maybe $6,000? What kind of power, what kind of longevity? Could 120 or 130 hp be so hard to get with decent longevity? I ask it more as theory and as a business opportunity/service someone could provide the community with -- someone who is well-known as a good engine builder. The 2.0-liter (based on a 1.7) in my 1973 914 has not left the chassis since at least 1986 -- it ain't got much power, but it was obviously built right. Rather than specific answers, I am hoping to open up a direction of travel for Type IV owners on a real-world budget and (hopefully) a resource to fit that niche. Or am I alone? (running for cover) pete |
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Hey nice rack! -Celette ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,506 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There is clearly a market for Jakes motors. The best to him. Jake came here and stated some things that started a real interest in cost vs value. If he hadn't this topic would never have been posted. I had NO idea a 914 motor could cost well over $ 10,000.00 much less sky rocket over $ 20,000.00! Holy Crap!
I've been thinking about this all day. In fact I started researching part prices and talking to local machine shops. I have a question as well. Well a question, and a statement. After skimming through May 2005 Excellence article titled 911 Engine Displacement Bumps written by Jim Pasha. I couldn't help but be drawn to the statement about life of the lower end of the 911 engine. The artitcle states a normal life is 200,000 or something. Q.) How many miles can we expect to get from a lower end of the type IV? My reason for asking is not to start a whole new debate about only doing upper end rebuilds on Pete's thread, but to find out if any mods done to the stock lower end extend the life. And if so what mods are required/useful. My reason for wanting to know is investigative for pricing USEFUL, meaningful mods. If the brain trust here agree the lower end is not the weak link and general parts are fine then we should discuss what is practical/meaningful for upper end work. It seems there is alot of motors that die not as a result of lower end trouble, but heads caused by injection or ignition failures. My shop manager purchased a 914 from Brad Mauyer. Brad stated his rebuild was good for 125hp. We never dyno'ed the beast but judging from the way that car drove compaired to my stock 1.7 I believe him! Now where's that popcorn smiley.... |
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