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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,433 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
So I can't (and won't) argue with Jake's policies or pricing. Hell, I helped publicize his acheivements and remain very impressed by them. So let's NOT DEBATE THEM here -- please take that to another thread.
In the meantime, though, I think $5,000 (carbs and ignition included?) seems a far more approachable number for a lot of people. I wouldn't expect to get anything but short-lived junk for $1,300 to $2,600 -- unless I was building it myself. So what are the possibilities at $5,000 to maybe $6,000? What kind of power, what kind of longevity? Could 120 or 130 hp be so hard to get with decent longevity? I ask it more as theory and as a business opportunity/service someone could provide the community with -- someone who is well-known as a good engine builder. The 2.0-liter (based on a 1.7) in my 1973 914 has not left the chassis since at least 1986 -- it ain't got much power, but it was obviously built right. Rather than specific answers, I am hoping to open up a direction of travel for Type IV owners on a real-world budget and (hopefully) a resource to fit that niche. Or am I alone? (running for cover) pete |
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Mid-Engn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,337 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Hi Guys,
Been following this post and here's my opinion. If I were doing my motor today it would be a Jake motor or use a Jake kite & put together myself. I assume it would cost me somewhere in the $5K to $6K area with about 150 hp. using carbs. The first thing is decide how you intend to drive your 914. Stock, slightly modified, F.I. Carbs, race engine, etc. Next, how much $$ do you have to spend. I believe you can build a budget motor, but you better be ready to do some work yourself and subcontract work you don's have the tools or knowledge to do. Example, head work, welding, machining, line boring, etc. I believe the biggest mistake most 914er's make is thinking they need a race motor in a street car. 914's give lots of pleasure with a 115-120 hp. motor. Beyond that it cost lots of money and you can't use the D-Jet Fuel Injection. When I restored my car I decided I wanted the original F.I. 2.0 liter motor with a little more power. That was (10) years ago and Jake was not around. I didn't know anything about type-4 motors & decided all modifications would be internal. Everyone told me the best combination to make 115-120 hp staying with D-Jet F.I. is listed in the attachment (see pic). I believe this combo is still current. The only thing I would do different today is another cam. My cam combo is a little touchy at idle. I am happy with my motor and highly reccommend staying with 115-120 hp and F.I. My total build cost was $2,467.26 ten years ago. Based on inflation of 5% today's price should be about $4,500 What's wrong here??? Forgot to say to get your budget motor built look for a small shop with VW experience. If you can't find one, call Jake. Tom Attached thumbnail(s) ![]() |
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