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> OT: The new "tuner" law, Anyone know any details on this? Cops..
Andyrew
post Feb 16 2006, 02:30 AM
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My dad and i are leary of this new law that allows the cops to pull over any car that is "modified".

Does anyone know any details? or can someone post the actual law?

My dad thinks they can impound my car and crush it and i'll never get it back...

This is on the basis that they pull me over for no apparent reason.

ALSO, knowing that I will never street race, what if they catch me get on it a little, or throw some tire smoke..


Anyways, Im 19, and here are some obvious facts about my car (and soon to be car)

It will have subtle flares, but it will have 18x10's on the back with a lot of rubber.
Brakes look stock, fronts are painted red.
Fiberglass front and rear bumpers w/ (soon to be) lexan rear spoiler
Lights are stock
Front trunk has louvers, not entirely noticable, in body paint color.
Body is factory phoenix red (orange)
Mirrors un decided, but will have left and right.
License plate on both front and rear bumper.
Engine lid stock, can see chrome air filter cover (will paint) obvious sbc
Exhaust is dual, side exit w/ 2 mufflers, should be relatively quiet under normal driving.
Racing seats
Racing harness's
momo wheel, factory guages
Small tubes no higher than stomach (while sitting down) for long to door pillar bracing (follows seat lines)
Black carpet

Thats about all they can see..
Car is a 73, does not need smog...

What can they do to me?

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post Feb 16 2006, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Feb 16 2006, 10:25 AM)
My car is FI, but I thought that didnt matter..

Thanks for all the reading.. but I want to know what james does..

and the actual laws that say what is illegal and not.

I do software.

I started reading the laws carefully in 1997 when SB42, the bill that originated the 30-year rolling exemption, first appeared. I've continued as the various challenges came up to kill SB42, including the one that finally did the deed.

The actual laws are (mostly) tied up in the California Vehicle Code (CVC). Reading the whole thing will make your eyes cross. Some of the laws, particularly regarding smog, are in the Health & Safety Code (H&S). You can find all of these online. The DMV website has links to many of them. Local ordinances are another matter, and you'd have to talk to the Modesto City Hall. They MAY be online, they may not. The text of most recent laws, and the bills that are currently being debated in the Assembly, are on the Assembly website.

The link posted above to that forum shows a sticky topic that reprints a CHP pamphlet that has a lot of the revelant CVC sections on what is and what is not allowed, and most of it is pretty much common sense. Things like color of lights, what lights, how far you can lower the car, how loud the stereo can be, etc. The penalties for most of these is a fix-it ticket, which means you have to show an officer within some set period (30 days, most likely) that the problem has been fixed, or pay a fine. I'm sure there's some escalation if you refuse to fix the problem, which may ultimately result in an appearance in court, and could easily turn into a contempt of court charge if you fail to provide a good reason to fix the problem. THAT would mean jail time and another (much bigger) fine.

Things like flares, mild lowering, a reasonable exhaust, etc., are certainly not a problem. If exhaust modifications were actually illegal (which they would be if "modified" were broadly interpreted), then Midas would be out of business, since they certainly don't use OEM parts to repair old rusty exhausts.

None of this really prevents some hard-assed cop from hassling you because they feel like it. There's often little to prevent that, unless the cop gets way out of line. I once got a fix-it ticket from a Mtn View cop because the taillights on my truck had faded to the point where they were pink instead of red. After I fixed it, I showed up at the Mtn View station to clear the ticket, and the chief was there and couldn't believe I got a ticket for this. She went: "oh, him" when she saw the name of the cop on the ticket. I expect he got an ass-chewing over it, which is really the only effective deterrent.

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Andyrew   OT: The new "tuner" law   Feb 16 2006, 02:30 AM
sean_v8_914   they will crush your car in CA if you get caught s...   Feb 16 2006, 02:38 AM
brer   I heard Arnold crushes them personally.   Feb 16 2006, 03:18 AM
sj914   Here's some usefull info: vehicle laws forum   Feb 16 2006, 03:21 AM
sj914   Here's some more good reading. Here   Feb 16 2006, 03:27 AM
sj914   I wonder what'll happen to all those cars that...   Feb 16 2006, 03:51 AM
Twystd1   Like Sean said.. In Cali... They can crush your ca...   Feb 16 2006, 05:12 AM
lagunero   I'm not a cop but like my parole officer says ...   Feb 16 2006, 11:11 AM
Brett W   Move out of that shit hole ASAP and drive what eve...   Feb 16 2006, 11:33 AM
lapuwali   Someone please point me to the actual law that sta...   Feb 16 2006, 12:14 PM
Andyrew   My car is FI, but I thought that didnt matter.. T...   Feb 16 2006, 12:25 PM
sj914   ...   Feb 16 2006, 12:32 PM
lapuwali   <...   Feb 16 2006, 12:52 PM
Headrage   <...   Feb 16 2006, 12:56 PM
Mueller   Only 3 laws I know of that allow the police to sie...   Feb 16 2006, 12:58 PM
MikeP   If you are that concerned, de-tune your motor, thr...   Feb 16 2006, 01:08 PM
mrdezyne   Sounds like your dad is the one trying to pull one...   Feb 16 2006, 01:11 PM
Mueller   ...   Feb 16 2006, 01:13 PM
Headrage   <...   Feb 16 2006, 01:19 PM
LvSteveH   Street racing is a hot button topic in most places...   Feb 16 2006, 01:21 PM
lapuwali     Feb 16 2006, 01:36 PM
kart54   Andrew, You asked a very specific question. Le...   Feb 16 2006, 02:01 PM
Aaron Cox   while on legality and 914's are 5 point harne...   Feb 16 2006, 04:10 PM
TROJANMAN   <...   Feb 16 2006, 04:33 PM
bondo     Feb 16 2006, 05:10 PM
Cloudbuster   A PCASDR thread on 5 pt harness legality   Feb 16 2006, 05:29 PM
lapuwali   I know I'm in the minority, but I don't co...   Feb 16 2006, 05:32 PM
Dr Evil   The CVC will only state so much, there are unique ...   Feb 16 2006, 05:34 PM
Crazyhippy   ...   Feb 16 2006, 09:14 PM
Andyrew   My main fear is of a cop that will get pissed or j...   Feb 16 2006, 10:03 PM
lapuwali   <...   Feb 17 2006, 11:32 AM
wbergtho   "Mexifornia" is the only state in the nation where...   Feb 17 2006, 11:42 AM
MattR   ...   Feb 17 2006, 12:17 PM
Cap'n Krusty   ...   Feb 17 2006, 12:20 PM
lapuwali   ...   Feb 17 2006, 12:32 PM
wbergtho   Didn't mean to stike a nerve with you CA boys....   Feb 17 2006, 12:33 PM
JOHNMAN   Do they have the California residents march the go...   Feb 17 2006, 12:36 PM
LvSteveH   Gee.. who's a better governor Arnold Schwartze...   Feb 17 2006, 12:45 PM
wbergtho   Hey Geek, Thanks for the history lesson. I put do...   Feb 17 2006, 01:07 PM
WRX914   Exactly what is a "nuisance vehicle"? That will b...   Feb 17 2006, 01:30 PM
reedhmb   To bring this a little back on topic, Andrew you d...   Feb 17 2006, 03:22 PM
Andyrew   <...   Feb 17 2006, 03:31 PM
fiid   Now we've established that this law doesn...   Feb 17 2006, 06:38 PM
dan10101   From the Dad's point of view... Thanks to tho...   Feb 17 2006, 11:13 PM
fiid   ...   Feb 18 2006, 10:46 AM
Cap'n Krusty   While we're on the subject ............. http...   Feb 22 2006, 09:29 AM
Dr Evil   ya have to register to read the article   Feb 22 2006, 11:26 AM
rick 918-S   dude! I wonder if they'll grab the Enzo...   Feb 22 2006, 11:41 AM
reddog   "NO converters in 73 that crap started in 75"   Feb 22 2006, 10:59 PM
reddog   Thank you http://www.914world.com/b...   Feb 22 2006, 11:59 PM
dan10101   a couple lines from the article. ----------------...   Feb 23 2006, 12:23 AM
Dr Evil   Dan, Do whatyou will, but I would highly doubt tha...   Feb 23 2006, 08:28 AM
Cap'n Krusty   ...   Feb 23 2006, 08:47 AM
rick 918-S   I'd challange that. Freedom of expression, pro...   Feb 23 2006, 09:07 AM
lagunero   yea Rick but when and where? The new"tuner law" so...   Feb 23 2006, 10:39 AM
MattR   ...   Feb 23 2006, 11:23 AM
nocones     Feb 23 2006, 11:45 AM
Pinepig   ...   Feb 23 2006, 11:57 AM
bondo     Feb 23 2006, 12:19 PM


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