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> OT: The new "tuner" law, Anyone know any details on this? Cops..
Andyrew
post Feb 16 2006, 02:30 AM
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My dad and i are leary of this new law that allows the cops to pull over any car that is "modified".

Does anyone know any details? or can someone post the actual law?

My dad thinks they can impound my car and crush it and i'll never get it back...

This is on the basis that they pull me over for no apparent reason.

ALSO, knowing that I will never street race, what if they catch me get on it a little, or throw some tire smoke..


Anyways, Im 19, and here are some obvious facts about my car (and soon to be car)

It will have subtle flares, but it will have 18x10's on the back with a lot of rubber.
Brakes look stock, fronts are painted red.
Fiberglass front and rear bumpers w/ (soon to be) lexan rear spoiler
Lights are stock
Front trunk has louvers, not entirely noticable, in body paint color.
Body is factory phoenix red (orange)
Mirrors un decided, but will have left and right.
License plate on both front and rear bumper.
Engine lid stock, can see chrome air filter cover (will paint) obvious sbc
Exhaust is dual, side exit w/ 2 mufflers, should be relatively quiet under normal driving.
Racing seats
Racing harness's
momo wheel, factory guages
Small tubes no higher than stomach (while sitting down) for long to door pillar bracing (follows seat lines)
Black carpet

Thats about all they can see..
Car is a 73, does not need smog...

What can they do to me?

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post Feb 16 2006, 02:01 PM
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Andrew,
You asked a very specific question. Let me give you a specific response. I practice law but this is not to be construed as legal advice of any kind.

They cannot seize and crush your car for being modified. If you have modifications that are outside of the law (which does not appear to be the case from what you have written). They will give you a fix it ticket on a first stop.

They may stop you more often because of the modifications just to check you out. They cannot look under the hood or in your trunk without probable cause that a crime is being committed. They will usually say "It's OK if we look in your trunk and under the hood right?" You are free to say no although they may try and put additional pressure on you at that point.

A clear violation of the law on most BMW's, Merecedes and Porsche's that I have seen is window tint in front of the driver's seat (Driver and passenger side front windows on 4 door cars and SUV's). alot of people do it and know that they are asking to be stopped. They will remove it once given a fix-it ticket and then put it back on once the ticket is resolved. Another is excessively dark tinting. The police must be able to see inside your vehicle from any angle if you have windows. but alot of people do that too.

I also don't know of one street legal Harley. Exhaust louder than stock and handle bars raised above the driver's shoulders are illegal in California but there are plenty of them around including Jay Leno's and Arnold's. Again, fix-it ticket if stopped.

Mueller gave you the reasons they can seize and impound your vehicle (not crush). Don't street race, don't go to street races, don't have any illegal drugs inside your vehicle (although that is a gray area I won't go into here) don't pick up hookers and don't rob banks or get in gang fights. Your young, if you give them an excuse or pretext they will pull you over.

Crushing is actually very rarely done. Instead the vehicle, in certain situations, becomes police property and is usually sold at a police auction. (Until a couple of large lawsuits came along this was a common revenue raising tactic by many local police departments in California. They would encourage someone selling pot or something similar to step into the seller's vehicle to complete the transaction or to smoke a joint, generally at a party, and then bust them and seize the vehicle.). This fellout of favor after the aforemnetioned lawsuits and the realization by departments that big drug dealers had caught on and were leasing their vehicles at full value which had to be paid off prior to the department making anything.

The above is not to be construed as legal advice, simply a statement of current law. No attorney-client relationship has been created or is implied by these comments.

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Andyrew   OT: The new "tuner" law   Feb 16 2006, 02:30 AM
sean_v8_914   they will crush your car in CA if you get caught s...   Feb 16 2006, 02:38 AM
brer   I heard Arnold crushes them personally.   Feb 16 2006, 03:18 AM
sj914   Here's some usefull info: vehicle laws forum   Feb 16 2006, 03:21 AM
sj914   Here's some more good reading. Here   Feb 16 2006, 03:27 AM
sj914   I wonder what'll happen to all those cars that...   Feb 16 2006, 03:51 AM
Twystd1   Like Sean said.. In Cali... They can crush your ca...   Feb 16 2006, 05:12 AM
lagunero   I'm not a cop but like my parole officer says ...   Feb 16 2006, 11:11 AM
Brett W   Move out of that shit hole ASAP and drive what eve...   Feb 16 2006, 11:33 AM
lapuwali   Someone please point me to the actual law that sta...   Feb 16 2006, 12:14 PM
Andyrew   My car is FI, but I thought that didnt matter.. T...   Feb 16 2006, 12:25 PM
sj914   ...   Feb 16 2006, 12:32 PM
lapuwali   <...   Feb 16 2006, 12:52 PM
Headrage   <...   Feb 16 2006, 12:56 PM
Mueller   Only 3 laws I know of that allow the police to sie...   Feb 16 2006, 12:58 PM
MikeP   If you are that concerned, de-tune your motor, thr...   Feb 16 2006, 01:08 PM
mrdezyne   Sounds like your dad is the one trying to pull one...   Feb 16 2006, 01:11 PM
Mueller   ...   Feb 16 2006, 01:13 PM
Headrage   <...   Feb 16 2006, 01:19 PM
LvSteveH   Street racing is a hot button topic in most places...   Feb 16 2006, 01:21 PM
lapuwali     Feb 16 2006, 01:36 PM
kart54   Andrew, You asked a very specific question. Le...   Feb 16 2006, 02:01 PM
Aaron Cox   while on legality and 914's are 5 point harne...   Feb 16 2006, 04:10 PM
TROJANMAN   <...   Feb 16 2006, 04:33 PM
bondo     Feb 16 2006, 05:10 PM
Cloudbuster   A PCASDR thread on 5 pt harness legality   Feb 16 2006, 05:29 PM
lapuwali   I know I'm in the minority, but I don't co...   Feb 16 2006, 05:32 PM
Dr Evil   The CVC will only state so much, there are unique ...   Feb 16 2006, 05:34 PM
Crazyhippy   ...   Feb 16 2006, 09:14 PM
Andyrew   My main fear is of a cop that will get pissed or j...   Feb 16 2006, 10:03 PM
lapuwali   <...   Feb 17 2006, 11:32 AM
wbergtho   "Mexifornia" is the only state in the nation where...   Feb 17 2006, 11:42 AM
MattR   ...   Feb 17 2006, 12:17 PM
Cap'n Krusty   ...   Feb 17 2006, 12:20 PM
lapuwali   ...   Feb 17 2006, 12:32 PM
wbergtho   Didn't mean to stike a nerve with you CA boys....   Feb 17 2006, 12:33 PM
JOHNMAN   Do they have the California residents march the go...   Feb 17 2006, 12:36 PM
LvSteveH   Gee.. who's a better governor Arnold Schwartze...   Feb 17 2006, 12:45 PM
wbergtho   Hey Geek, Thanks for the history lesson. I put do...   Feb 17 2006, 01:07 PM
WRX914   Exactly what is a "nuisance vehicle"? That will b...   Feb 17 2006, 01:30 PM
reedhmb   To bring this a little back on topic, Andrew you d...   Feb 17 2006, 03:22 PM
Andyrew   <...   Feb 17 2006, 03:31 PM
fiid   Now we've established that this law doesn...   Feb 17 2006, 06:38 PM
dan10101   From the Dad's point of view... Thanks to tho...   Feb 17 2006, 11:13 PM
fiid   ...   Feb 18 2006, 10:46 AM
Cap'n Krusty   While we're on the subject ............. http...   Feb 22 2006, 09:29 AM
Dr Evil   ya have to register to read the article   Feb 22 2006, 11:26 AM
rick 918-S   dude! I wonder if they'll grab the Enzo...   Feb 22 2006, 11:41 AM
reddog   "NO converters in 73 that crap started in 75"   Feb 22 2006, 10:59 PM
reddog   Thank you http://www.914world.com/b...   Feb 22 2006, 11:59 PM
dan10101   a couple lines from the article. ----------------...   Feb 23 2006, 12:23 AM
Dr Evil   Dan, Do whatyou will, but I would highly doubt tha...   Feb 23 2006, 08:28 AM
Cap'n Krusty   ...   Feb 23 2006, 08:47 AM
rick 918-S   I'd challange that. Freedom of expression, pro...   Feb 23 2006, 09:07 AM
lagunero   yea Rick but when and where? The new"tuner law" so...   Feb 23 2006, 10:39 AM
MattR   ...   Feb 23 2006, 11:23 AM
nocones     Feb 23 2006, 11:45 AM
Pinepig   ...   Feb 23 2006, 11:57 AM
bondo     Feb 23 2006, 12:19 PM


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