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> Conversion trans?, What the heck do the V8 guys have to use
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post Feb 26 2006, 11:55 PM
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What are the V8 guys using. I know a guy locally who runs a Hewland 5 sp. What does everyone else run?

And do you guys all align your engines laterally?
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post Feb 27 2006, 01:16 AM
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Hewland, modified 930/915, Mendeola, or ZF are not "cost prohibitive" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

ZF soon to be tested with 700 + hp, talk about rare European boxes. One or two suppliers who set their own prices. $500 was a deal "before" they were desireable.

Renault:
Not readily available in the states...hundreds of them used in GT40 and other race replicas. You can still find used for a few hundred or rebuilt for $1500 in UK and Germany. If a UK supplier can ship them cheaply you can have a 5 speed gearbox comparable to a 915 made for mid-engine. See pic attached. A $5k Lotus new gear upgrade will get you to 500hp and cost less than the high end boxes.

Audi:
No one has adapted a manual yet but they are being considered in Europe and Australia to replace the out of production Renaults.

901:
my last survey had a few running 350-400hp with a stock 901, makes great economical sense if you don't mind operating at it's limits. The tall gearing and plate mods add a couple thousand to the price. BTW, Alpha, check my signature link on tall geared 901

Boxster:
Alan makes a good case considering the availability and reasonable price. Still no adapters on the market so you need to be a fabricator type. Here's a response from a guys who is selling a Boxster 5 speed he originally purchased for a V8 application:
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It all depends? Torque is what kills transmissions. That is why most sports cars are small bore short stroke motors. Rev high to the horsepower with out the killing torque. But keep in mind that when engineering gear sectional width a 4 and 6 cylinder engine would have to have wider gear teeth due to a higher requirement from Moment to Shear relation. This is because the fewer the cylinder the harsher the pulse torsions stress is on a rotating mass. The v8 has a smoother pulse rotational stress. Thus the 4 cyl and 6 cyl transmissions like this have wider gears and bearings for this reason . The problem lies in the fact they still use small input and out put shafts based on the engines out put torque. (shaft that you attach your clutch to ) Most transmissions die from gear tooth breakage and pinion tooth breakage and not shaft twisting. But again these units have a bigger tooth contact patch due to the above v6 pulse issue. Bottom line is actual test usage. The Porsche transmission guy in California has told me he has had many high horse power small block v8 s put behind them without failure. So that is my 2 cents on this issue.

I am still awaiting the identity of this "Porsche transmission guy in CA"...

If you want to consider transverse, check out the Fiero or MR2 V8 conversion sites...



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alpha434   Conversion trans?   Feb 26 2006, 11:55 PM
Twystd1   Noraa sequential trans from Skline industry's ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:03 AM
alpha434   How much do they run?   Feb 27 2006, 12:04 AM
SirAndy   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:12 AM
Mueller   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:17 AM
alpha434   That'll never work. What else ya got? Cost ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:18 AM
SirAndy   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:22 AM
messix   he might be refering to transverse trans axels, fi...   Feb 27 2006, 12:26 AM
Aaron Cox   i second the Noraa sequential..... mike summed i...   Feb 27 2006, 12:26 AM
alpha434     Feb 27 2006, 12:29 AM
alpha434   And the NORAA. I already googled it and can...   Feb 27 2006, 12:30 AM
Porcharu   Other than real Porsche transmissions - Audi (the ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:31 AM
Aaron Cox   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:31 AM
Andyrew   Pantera, cant find it.. holds bout 500hp Renaul...   Feb 27 2006, 12:34 AM
Mueller   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:35 AM
Twystd1   ZF setup like new... 7K........ And it has a boa...   Feb 27 2006, 12:40 AM
Mueller     Feb 27 2006, 12:40 AM
Aaron Cox   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:41 AM
Twystd1   NOPE, A six speed ZF is 14K my price. To rebuild ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:49 AM
Mueller   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:52 AM
alpha434   Bump. More info, please.   Feb 27 2006, 01:46 AM
neo914-6   try the search engine, this topic comes up every f...   Feb 27 2006, 01:59 AM
Brando   Anyone think of using a flipped early 944 trans? g...   Feb 27 2006, 03:44 AM
Andyrew   944 turbo trani.. ya... No provision for a starte...   Feb 27 2006, 03:55 AM
Porcharu     Feb 27 2006, 09:54 AM
andys   No adapters for the early Boxster/Audi 5 speed. Th...   Feb 27 2006, 10:53 AM
Mueller     Feb 27 2006, 11:25 AM
alpha434   I need it to hold up for at least 30 minutes under...   Feb 27 2006, 11:54 AM
neo914-6   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:03 PM
neo914-6   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:06 PM
Mueller   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:08 PM
Mueller   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:10 PM
Brian Mifsud   If you want to put a V8 into a car transversely.. ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:11 PM
neo914-6   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:27 PM
turbo914v8   I can confirm that the ZF Pantera box will sustain...   Feb 27 2006, 09:02 PM
Andyrew   <...   Feb 27 2006, 09:05 PM
drive-ability   930, strong and good gear ratios ...   Feb 28 2006, 11:18 AM
Brett W   The problem with the Boxster tranny is the limited...   Feb 28 2006, 11:56 AM
bondo   <...   Feb 28 2006, 12:04 PM
andys     Feb 28 2006, 12:29 PM
Andyrew   Im watching this audi trani option.... Someone do...   Feb 28 2006, 12:46 PM
wbergtho   If you have up to 280 ft lbs of torque buy a cheap...   Feb 28 2006, 02:29 PM
andys   Think I got my compatibility issues resolved. Her...   Feb 28 2006, 02:30 PM
Mueller     Feb 28 2006, 02:32 PM
wbergtho   Hey Andy, I've talked with you in the past ab...   Feb 28 2006, 02:38 PM
Porcharu   <...   Feb 28 2006, 02:44 PM
andys   ...   Feb 28 2006, 03:22 PM
Dr. Roger   Great pics of how to mate a 930 to a LS1 including...   Feb 28 2006, 03:24 PM
andys   ...   Feb 28 2006, 03:28 PM
Andyrew   ...   Feb 28 2006, 04:22 PM
Mueller   <...   Feb 28 2006, 04:35 PM
Andyrew   Mike, I know... Im just telling him that we "the ...   Feb 28 2006, 05:16 PM
wbergtho   Andrew, If you are a very smooth driver...you may...   Feb 28 2006, 05:23 PM
Andyrew   Oh I've run my car with my tq for about a year...   Feb 28 2006, 05:32 PM


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