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> OFFICIAL GRASSHOPPER "RUSTORATION" THREAD, lots-o-rust
grasshopper
post Oct 12 2005, 05:13 PM
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ok, heres my new project. this is going to go pretty slow, until i can get some decent time to get work done... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) I hate school. ordered metal, and am waiting for it to arrive. I'm glad i didn't pay alot for this car, cause i found 100 percent more rust than I expected. things that looked solid, fell apart. lots of fabrication work. But i'm not afraid to fabricate stuff. I gotten pretty good. here are some pics that are more recent. Hope you enjoy this thread!!!!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) drivers side after digging


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post Feb 27 2006, 09:16 PM
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Hey Barry!

I didn't realized it was you that had requested for pictures of rear fender panels that I have for sale. I hope you got the pictures today.

Listen, about the welding part, i don't know how far you are with your work now but I thought maybe i can give an idea how to play with the MIG while welding....

When you're about to trigger the torch, watch the feedwire touching the bare metal, if the arc is popping and the feedwire is "crushing" onto the panel, two things to try out....increase the voltage (heat) and try again. If it's punching a hole, you probably got too much voltage, bring down a tad. If that doesn't seem to help a bit, then fiddle the speed of the feedwire down a bit at one heat setting of your choice until you get a very nice arc, no popping and you're able to move along the line, that's the setting you want for that perticular job you're welding on. Sometimes the same setting may not work on other area of your repair. You're gonna have to play a bit to get the feel of it.
Now, re read above, if you see your feedwire melts before it ever "feed" onto the metal, and the arc is popping, your feedwire setting is way too slow. Try increase the speed till it gives you a nice arc and nice puddle of molted feedwire on your work, then you're all set.

I always start with a tack (like spotweld) on the work area (new metal align to old metal) to check my setting before I weld down the line. When you tack weld, try do that on every one inch all the way around the perimeter of the new metal to give you a better secured piece onto the old metal before welding shut the whole thing. Then take your time to start weld from one tack to another and STOP! Let the metal cool down a bit and double check the alignment of the new metal to old metal, hammer it in place if needed to, then continue welding the next tack weld to tack weld at the opposite side of your piece from your first welding. That way the heat are spread out a bit better without warping your work out of shape and let it cool a bit. I tend to avoid water cooling as much as I can to avoid the "cold shock" onto hot weld beads. What I mean by let it cool a bit, I just the time right after I stopped welding, to check my weld bead, double check the alignment and then go on. Thats about a min of cooling which would be good. Grinding off the excessive bead that hasn't been watercooled turns out to be a bit be easier too. Hell, everyone has their own way of doing it, it's just that I wanted to share in what I do with my welding.

Oh, one last thing, a shitty (aka rusty, dirty, greasy) metal, you will NEVER be able to have a decent weld bead or most important, molted pentration/fusion between these two metals cuz the arc has to be right and it's no way for the feedwire to react properly when it's grounded. When you try weld something on poorly grounded metal (or shitty metal), the weld beads will look exactly like what you had in your first few pictures of trying it out. Grind out everything to shining metal, no rust specks or pits allowed before you weld, other wise you'll be cursing out loud inside your helmet!

Hope this helps and PM me if you got questions, i'll be gladly to help.

Good luck! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif)

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grasshopper   OFFICIAL GRASSHOPPER "RUSTORATION" THREAD   Oct 12 2005, 05:13 PM
grasshopper   drivers side after cutting   Oct 12 2005, 05:15 PM
grasshopper   template made.............no making fun http://www.914world....   Oct 12 2005, 05:27 PM
i love porsche   looks like you have alot of work ahead good luck ...   Oct 12 2005, 05:28 PM
grasshopper   did find something that made me a little happier t...   Oct 12 2005, 05:29 PM
SirAndy   well, that's going to be a lot of work, but yo...   Oct 12 2005, 05:30 PM
grasshopper   whoops, skipped a couple pics. Here are the templa...   Oct 12 2005, 05:31 PM
grasshopper   and last one for now. here's a pic of me smoot...   Oct 12 2005, 05:33 PM
Rand   I was just about to say it... buy Andy beat me to ...   Oct 12 2005, 05:34 PM
grasshopper   if you are wondering why i am working outside, its...   Oct 12 2005, 05:36 PM
Rand   Dang, I wish I had a garage like that. Outstanding...   Oct 12 2005, 05:40 PM
Hammy   Yes, make SURE you use Ospho or metal ready or som...   Oct 12 2005, 05:50 PM
Headrage   ...   Oct 12 2005, 06:07 PM
Gint   Bravo! http://www.914wor...   Oct 12 2005, 06:10 PM
SirAndy   ...   Oct 12 2005, 06:40 PM
Jeroen   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Oct 12 2005, 06:43 PM
Headrage   ...   Oct 12 2005, 07:22 PM
MW 914   ...   Oct 12 2005, 09:16 PM
Eric Taylor   Alright Man! It's going to feel so good wh...   Oct 12 2005, 09:17 PM
jd74914     Oct 12 2005, 09:39 PM
Aaron Cox   BTDT.... cut off part of my fingernail and finger...   Oct 12 2005, 09:41 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Barry....You da Man.....what an inspiration you ar...   Oct 12 2005, 09:59 PM
Joe Sharp   Hey Berry: How you doing with the new local now? J...   Oct 12 2005, 10:15 PM
jonwatts   <...   Oct 12 2005, 11:52 PM
michelko   Hi, good work. Nice to see that young people also ...   Oct 13 2005, 12:47 AM
redshift   Barry, your enthusiasm is unreal, and you have a g...   Oct 15 2005, 04:47 PM
grasshopper   haha thanks miles!!   Oct 15 2005, 05:35 PM
michelko   Hi Barry, here is the answer to the PM (don´t kno...   Oct 16 2005, 12:19 AM
michelko   here is a shot of the console drilled out. you can...   Oct 16 2005, 12:27 AM
michelko   good advice is: bracing the tub to keep the door g...   Oct 16 2005, 12:37 AM
michelko   follow the link: Pictures If you need more (pic ...   Oct 16 2005, 12:41 AM
grasshopper   wow!! Thanks soooo much michelko. That wil...   Oct 16 2005, 08:14 AM
grasshopper   ok, i got a question about the door vents... can i...   Oct 22 2005, 09:30 AM
bondo     Oct 22 2005, 12:07 PM
bondo     Oct 22 2005, 12:16 PM
grasshopper     Oct 22 2005, 01:07 PM
bob   Barry- they are also used to vent the interior whe...   Oct 24 2005, 08:00 AM
grasshopper   hhhmmm... i guess i'll keep them then http:/...   Nov 8 2005, 06:24 AM
Hammy   What's involved in rebuilding the pedal assemb...   Nov 8 2005, 07:08 AM
CptTripps   You are doing great man...I'm SURE you are goi...   Nov 8 2005, 07:20 AM
STL914   http://w...   Jan 15 2006, 04:54 PM
grasshopper   how the car sits (note the rollbar on my workbench...   Jan 15 2006, 04:55 PM
grasshopper   found some really heavy duty adjustable...things.....   Jan 15 2006, 04:58 PM
grasshopper   got some metal for the pedal area   Jan 15 2006, 04:59 PM
Aaron Cox   turnbuckles...   Jan 15 2006, 05:00 PM
grasshopper   thanks arron, i remembered after i posted http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Jan 16 2006, 12:17 AM
Geodude   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Jan 25 2006, 10:23 PM
michael_oberg   A hopefully not too offtopic post about welding: ...   Jan 25 2006, 11:34 PM
michelko   Hey Barry , how´s about some update on your proje...   Feb 26 2006, 02:28 AM
grasshopper   i've been saving up for a while so i will have...   Feb 26 2006, 09:21 AM
kwales   Barry, Ya need a chill plate behind the thin met...   Feb 26 2006, 09:36 AM
grasshopper   well, i would have done that and will do that, but...   Feb 26 2006, 09:42 AM
grasshopper   ok, a little late...sorry....the sail panel patch ...   Feb 27 2006, 08:23 PM
grasshopper   welded and ground down   Feb 27 2006, 08:24 PM
grasshopper   as you can see, the curve isn't perfect, so i ...   Feb 27 2006, 08:26 PM
grasshopper   rear corner of the front fender... sorry no before...   Feb 27 2006, 08:28 PM
grasshopper   more rust in that area....   Feb 27 2006, 08:31 PM
grasshopper   welded and ground down   Feb 27 2006, 08:33 PM
grasshopper   another shot of the sail panel.... the next task i...   Feb 27 2006, 08:38 PM
jd74914   why lead? bondo has gotten much better.   Feb 27 2006, 08:40 PM
grasshopper   bondo doesn't sound good http:/...   Feb 27 2006, 08:48 PM
jd74914   Bondo would be easier and have less of those bad f...   Feb 27 2006, 08:57 PM
drewvw   Love this thread Barry. Like you, I was doing not...   Feb 27 2006, 09:08 PM
grasshopper     Feb 27 2006, 09:12 PM
Carrera916   Hey Barry! I didn't realized it was you t...   Feb 27 2006, 09:16 PM
grasshopper   hey!!! thanks for the info jerry!...   Feb 27 2006, 09:26 PM
degreeoff   I like to "spot weld" the entire peice....as menti...   Feb 27 2006, 10:19 PM


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