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| r_towle |
Jan 11 2006, 08:07 PM
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Hi guys,
Through a local DOD contractor I found a few small shops that will make Berillium Diaphrams... Apparently the new fighter jets use alot of the material, so they are set up to work with it, and do small runs... So , what I need, to get a price, is CAD drawings of the diaphram, and the piece that gets pressed into the middle.. I have been told that they can do it, based upon my description. So, did anyone ever make a drawing of the diaphram...or maybe please......mike...could you... Rich |
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| Demick |
Feb 28 2006, 11:13 AM
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Ernie made me do it! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,312 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 257 |
Sorry for a very delayed response from me on this with relation to the drawing for the diaphragm. I have been extremely busy lately and didn't get to spend much time on it.
Jeff B. and I did have some offline discussions during this time. Originally, I had planned on designing the boss on the diaphragm so that it would attach to the diaphragm with a threaded nut. So I was going to try and source an appropriate sized nut to do this. But Jeff suggested that we just replicate the original design rather than trying for the nut approach. I'm fine with that. But the diaphragm that Jeff sent me is a good one and he doesn't want it destroyed. And in the assembled state, it is very difficult for me to tell which parts are which in the pressed-together state. Here is what I wrote to Jeff regarding this: With the idea of replicating the original, it is very difficult for me to tell how it was assembled without cutting one apart. There are 4 'steps' to the center boss where the retainer is installed. It is difficult for me to tell which part is what, and if the retainer is simply a retaining ring that has been pressed on, or if it is a part that is highly deformed when pressed on (as in, the retainer starts out as a ring, but ends up with a step in it). Anyway, take a look at the images I have attached. This is one way it could have gone together. It involves four parts: the diaphragm, the boss, a washer, and the retainer. In this case, the retainer is just pressed into place (not deformed). Here is the exploded view I sent him: Attached thumbnail(s)
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r_towle Paging Mueller Jan 11 2006, 08:07 PM
Jeff Bowlsby Cool....!
Mike, you are the man to do a drawi... Jan 11 2006, 09:41 PM
Demick Jeff
If you have a diaphragm lying around that yo... Jan 11 2006, 09:51 PM
jimkelly do they really need a cad drawing or can they work... Jan 11 2006, 10:07 PM
r_towle cad.
if they need to measure, and make the drawing... Jan 11 2006, 10:09 PM
rick 918-S Dude! http://www.914world.c... Jan 11 2006, 11:13 PM
Bleyseng I have a spare decent diaphram laying around if yo... Jan 11 2006, 11:37 PM
Demick Jeff is going to send me a diaphragm. After I get... Jan 12 2006, 09:44 AM
Bleyseng Is it Berillium? The ones I have are copper or atl... Jan 12 2006, 09:56 AM
ppickerell I can make the beryllium piece in my shop, but the... Jan 12 2006, 10:01 AM
r_towle I was just going on what you guy have been saying ... Jan 12 2006, 10:27 AM
Jeroen funny, I've been looking into the same thing
w... Jan 12 2006, 10:37 AM
Jenny http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht... Jan 12 2006, 10:57 AM
Jenny bugger... the picture didn't take. Jan 12 2006, 11:00 AM
airsix <... Jan 12 2006, 12:11 PM
Demick Yep. I would guess that the appropriate callout f... Jan 12 2006, 01:22 PM
r_towle ok, you sound smart...
can you arrange to have so... Jan 12 2006, 01:41 PM
Demick Im not sure how to have it tested, but BeCu is the... Jan 12 2006, 06:31 PM
TimT You will have to sacrifice one and send it to a Ma... Jan 12 2006, 06:41 PM
Bleyseng I can send someone dead OEM ones.....got a few of ... Jan 12 2006, 07:02 PM
Jeff Bowlsby If I recall, Brad anders posted a series of patent... Jan 12 2006, 08:10 PM
r_towle ok..
So Demick will get a CAD drawing done...
Bo... Jan 12 2006, 09:23 PM
Demick I will do the CAD models in Solidworks. I can out... Jan 12 2006, 10:19 PM
r_towle Im all for Patrick doing it...
I just want a solut... Jan 12 2006, 10:21 PM
Demick <... Jan 12 2006, 10:34 PM
r_towle you may very well be right on the price, but I wou... Jan 12 2006, 10:40 PM
SLITS Jan 13 2006, 12:37 AM
Bleyseng Let's just break into Brett Inst. and steal th... Jan 13 2006, 09:17 AM
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