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> Conversion trans?, What the heck do the V8 guys have to use
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post Feb 26 2006, 11:55 PM
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What are the V8 guys using. I know a guy locally who runs a Hewland 5 sp. What does everyone else run?

And do you guys all align your engines laterally?
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post Feb 28 2006, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (GS Guy @ Feb 28 2006, 05:12 AM)
Thought you guys might be interested in some developments on the Audi 016 transaxle. For a mid-priced, moderate powere level (400hp or less) trans, this would seem like a viable and appropriately priced option. I'm no transaxle expert, but following the $$ tossed around for converted 915s, 930s, built up 914s, and the plethora of non-porsche options - this Audi box sure looks like it should fit into the picture somewhere!

From the GT40s.com board:
http://www.gt40s.com/ubbthreads/showflat.p.../0/page/0#57684

The "news" is a new lower ratio R&P set will soon be available (and under testing now) making this trans better geared for a V8. From my engine speed vs road speed plots, this new ratio spreads the gearing over the 930, with slightly shorter first, and taller 5th. With a 26" tire it runs 2000rpm @70mph.

A $4K fully rebuilt trans, with a Quaife (and your core), that sounds to me like a viable option. If it will really support 400hp & 350 ft.lbs reliably, it could be a bargain! Maybe the perfect "mid range" transaxle option?

Jeff

The main advantage to the Audi 016 transaxle is it's availability and cost. Though I imagine at some point they'll start to become scarce, salvage yard prices are in the $300 range. This gives plenty of room for rebuilds, upgrades, LSD, etc. Kennedy does make the adapter plates and clutch/flywheel assemblies (except for Gen III SBC's). HP capability and durability I feel is not completely settled, as most users are GT40/Lola MkIIIB replica builders that likely don't "hotrod" them. My guess is 400HP, but it depends a great deal on how you drive them.

Under my encouragement, I directed the GT40 forum members to John Steadman of German Transaxle of America (GTA) who was willing to persue a taller ring and pinion effort (it originally started as a retro of a 951 R&P to an 016). Fortunately, one of the GT40 Forum members stepped up and funded the development of a 3.22:1 R&P.

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alpha434   Conversion trans?   Feb 26 2006, 11:55 PM
Twystd1   Noraa sequential trans from Skline industry's ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:03 AM
alpha434   How much do they run?   Feb 27 2006, 12:04 AM
SirAndy   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:12 AM
Mueller   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:17 AM
alpha434   That'll never work. What else ya got? Cost ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:18 AM
SirAndy   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:22 AM
messix   he might be refering to transverse trans axels, fi...   Feb 27 2006, 12:26 AM
Aaron Cox   i second the Noraa sequential..... mike summed i...   Feb 27 2006, 12:26 AM
alpha434     Feb 27 2006, 12:29 AM
alpha434   And the NORAA. I already googled it and can...   Feb 27 2006, 12:30 AM
Porcharu   Other than real Porsche transmissions - Audi (the ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:31 AM
Aaron Cox   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:31 AM
Andyrew   Pantera, cant find it.. holds bout 500hp Renaul...   Feb 27 2006, 12:34 AM
Mueller   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:35 AM
Twystd1   ZF setup like new... 7K........ And it has a boa...   Feb 27 2006, 12:40 AM
Mueller     Feb 27 2006, 12:40 AM
Aaron Cox   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:41 AM
Twystd1   NOPE, A six speed ZF is 14K my price. To rebuild ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:49 AM
Mueller   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:52 AM
neo914-6   Hewland, modified 930/915, Mendeola, or ZF are not...   Feb 27 2006, 01:16 AM
alpha434   Bump. More info, please.   Feb 27 2006, 01:46 AM
neo914-6   try the search engine, this topic comes up every f...   Feb 27 2006, 01:59 AM
Brando   Anyone think of using a flipped early 944 trans? g...   Feb 27 2006, 03:44 AM
Andyrew   944 turbo trani.. ya... No provision for a starte...   Feb 27 2006, 03:55 AM
Porcharu     Feb 27 2006, 09:54 AM
andys   No adapters for the early Boxster/Audi 5 speed. Th...   Feb 27 2006, 10:53 AM
Mueller     Feb 27 2006, 11:25 AM
alpha434   I need it to hold up for at least 30 minutes under...   Feb 27 2006, 11:54 AM
neo914-6   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:03 PM
neo914-6   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:06 PM
Mueller   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:08 PM
Mueller   ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:10 PM
Brian Mifsud   If you want to put a V8 into a car transversely.. ...   Feb 27 2006, 12:11 PM
neo914-6   <...   Feb 27 2006, 12:27 PM
turbo914v8   I can confirm that the ZF Pantera box will sustain...   Feb 27 2006, 09:02 PM
Andyrew   <...   Feb 27 2006, 09:05 PM
drive-ability   930, strong and good gear ratios ...   Feb 28 2006, 11:18 AM
Brett W   The problem with the Boxster tranny is the limited...   Feb 28 2006, 11:56 AM
bondo   <...   Feb 28 2006, 12:04 PM
Andyrew   Im watching this audi trani option.... Someone do...   Feb 28 2006, 12:46 PM
wbergtho   If you have up to 280 ft lbs of torque buy a cheap...   Feb 28 2006, 02:29 PM
andys   Think I got my compatibility issues resolved. Her...   Feb 28 2006, 02:30 PM
Mueller     Feb 28 2006, 02:32 PM
wbergtho   Hey Andy, I've talked with you in the past ab...   Feb 28 2006, 02:38 PM
Porcharu   <...   Feb 28 2006, 02:44 PM
andys   ...   Feb 28 2006, 03:22 PM
Dr. Roger   Great pics of how to mate a 930 to a LS1 including...   Feb 28 2006, 03:24 PM
andys   ...   Feb 28 2006, 03:28 PM
Andyrew   ...   Feb 28 2006, 04:22 PM
Mueller   <...   Feb 28 2006, 04:35 PM
Andyrew   Mike, I know... Im just telling him that we "the ...   Feb 28 2006, 05:16 PM
wbergtho   Andrew, If you are a very smooth driver...you may...   Feb 28 2006, 05:23 PM
Andyrew   Oh I've run my car with my tq for about a year...   Feb 28 2006, 05:32 PM


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