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914werke
post Apr 1 2006, 10:04 PM
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I know Jake suggests tossing these, but unfortunantly Im rebuilding a set of heads. Id like to keep them stock, but Im more concerned about longevity.
Is there anything that can be done to improve thier function?

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Here is my logic.

The car/engine was designed for longevity, not super performance...

It was designed by alot of engineers...real automotive engineer, with dynos, testing equipment etc...

the original valves last 30 years, provide 100k+ of service.
They work with the stock motor design.

If I am rebuilding a head, stock motor, stock vavle sizes...I use stock valves, sodium filled.

I would never re-use valves, not worth it.
The top of the valve stem is usually mushroomed, and needs to be re-ground, and re-hardened. not an easy DIY process.

The new valves are 55 bucks ...

I would say, dont re-use, but go with what the orinigal engineers specified for this motor...the same conditions...you will get another 100k plus from the motor.

The original seat material has been upgraded, that was a failure point..so get the seats replaced.

The valve guides are normally beyond service at 100k miles, so you will need to replace those as well.



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rdauenhauer   OE Exhaust Valves   Apr 1 2006, 10:04 PM
r_towle   Im gonna ask a rhetorical question... Did the ori...   Apr 1 2006, 10:10 PM
rdauenhauer   Actually yes! and that IS the hope. <...   Apr 1 2006, 11:56 PM
Brando   <...   Apr 2 2006, 12:16 AM
messix   the valve stems are filled with sodium to isolate ...   Apr 2 2006, 12:20 AM
DNHunt     Apr 2 2006, 06:49 AM
davep   <...   Apr 2 2006, 06:59 AM
Bleyseng   I don't use 30yr old valves in my cars....if y...   Apr 2 2006, 08:29 AM
J P Stein     Apr 2 2006, 08:48 AM
Rotten Robby   ...and for a fun experiment you can do at home...   Apr 2 2006, 10:54 AM
r_towle   what happens when you pour it down the sink?? smok...   Apr 2 2006, 10:57 AM
bd1308     Apr 2 2006, 11:10 AM
J P Stein     Apr 2 2006, 11:10 AM
Rotten Robby     Apr 2 2006, 11:13 AM
Jake Raby   I can't stand not posting on this topic. If ...   Apr 2 2006, 11:59 AM
Aaron Cox   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Apr 2 2006, 12:05 PM
r_towle   ...   Apr 2 2006, 01:27 PM
Bleyseng   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Apr 2 2006, 04:17 PM
jsteele22   Interesting thread, had no idea it was gonna be so...   Apr 2 2006, 05:13 PM
bd1308   sounds like sodium could be used to make hydrogen ...   Apr 2 2006, 05:20 PM
alpha434   I'm not sure if you could cryo sodium filled v...   Apr 2 2006, 06:00 PM
davep   ...   Apr 2 2006, 06:01 PM
Al Meredith   Sodium is used in LOW PRESSURE SODIUM LIGHT BULBS....   Apr 2 2006, 06:57 PM
alpha434     Apr 3 2006, 08:58 AM
DNHunt  
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Bleyseng   My rebuilt rebuilt motor with the new cam is runni...   Apr 3 2006, 10:19 AM
Demick   Just a few observations: 1. I have noticed that J...   Apr 3 2006, 10:30 AM
DNHunt   I agree that the longer duration probably acounts ...   Apr 3 2006, 10:52 AM
Demick   Dave Very generally, steel has 2-3 times the ther...   Apr 3 2006, 11:07 AM
Bleyseng     Apr 3 2006, 11:10 AM
J P Stein   The sodium transfers heat from the head to the ste...   Apr 3 2006, 12:43 PM
Bleyseng   and if the valve guide is worn the valve does not ...   Apr 3 2006, 12:57 PM
alpha434   <...   Apr 3 2006, 01:39 PM
SLITS   <...   Apr 3 2006, 02:01 PM
davep   <...   Apr 3 2006, 02:06 PM
Matt Meyer  
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Bleyseng   Good food for thought on how fixing one problem le...   Apr 3 2006, 02:46 PM
Twystd1   Somebody explain to me how an Airplane piston engi...   Apr 3 2006, 02:58 PM
arc914  
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Bleyseng   I am not sure that type 4 engines need a spray bar...   Apr 3 2006, 05:29 PM
Twystd1   Many spec racing (NASCAR and others) V8 engines us...   Apr 3 2006, 06:03 PM
J P Stein   Golly.........what Porsche engine has had 2 cam to...   Apr 3 2006, 07:33 PM
Bleyseng   Aren't 911 engines dry sumped? <...   Apr 3 2006, 08:07 PM
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DNHunt   Damn that was good http://w...   Apr 3 2006, 08:34 PM
J P Stein   30's technology? I'm 40's technology.....   Apr 3 2006, 09:38 PM
sixnotfour   935 oil cooled/lubed guide exhaust,oil cooled/lube...   Apr 3 2006, 11:03 PM
sixnotfour   sideshot   Apr 3 2006, 11:07 PM
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