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> Volocity stack design considerations??, for my mickey mouse ITB's
Mueller
post Apr 4 2006, 03:19 PM
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Slightly warmed up /4 motor applications...I'm thinking just about any design better than none at all....I'd like to metal spin these myself, however if I can get a good price on 8 from a fellow non-club member, I'll go that route (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)






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post Apr 7 2006, 11:06 PM
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Since I worked for Suzuki for 5 years, I thought I might comment on this particular situation.

Yes, the slot in the rubber velocity stack was to reduce the intake reversion on this model, The 2003 had different cams that caused some minor fuel distribution issues we worked out by doing this simple mod. It does not work in all applications. The intake port velocity on this engine is completely different than that of the 914 4/6engine. Also a GSXR1000 will regularly spin to 12,600 rpm. None of us ever will, or at least we will not have any straight valves after that.

This mod would be an R&D affair. For GSXR 1000 race engines I build, we remove these stacks and install a stack that is a touch shorter, with a 12mm rounded edge which increases flow and changes the torque peak. The stack is also void of all slots unlike the standard piece.

As far as 4D to determine the correct radius for the velocity stack bellmouth, this would be a good starting point, I checked some of the ones I have and they range from 3.5D to 5D. Interesting. I wish I could give you a reason why I arrrived at the sizing I did, but I don't.

This is one area we have not discussed, and I have a trial set for my next dyno run. I really think aircleaners are very important, But I have glued a upside down top shaped piece of plastic to the under side of the air box pointed towards the carb velocity stack. I am hoping to guide some more air into the carb without restricting it. Stole the idea from Buell motorcycles. We'll See!


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Mueller   Volocity stack design considerations??   Apr 4 2006, 03:19 PM
bd1308   carbs have had velocity stacks for years....   Apr 4 2006, 03:42 PM
spunone   Just send me the measurements and if we ever meet ...   Apr 4 2006, 03:52 PM
spunone   You can roll outer edge back onto itself I have m...   Apr 4 2006, 04:04 PM
SirAndy     Apr 4 2006, 04:14 PM
jsteele22   Hey Mike, Don't know if you've run ac...   Apr 4 2006, 04:27 PM
ClayPerrine   Velocity of Sound Website - Maker of Velocity Stac...   Apr 4 2006, 04:38 PM
ClayPerrine   I still want to know why you are reinventing the w...   Apr 4 2006, 04:40 PM
ClayPerrine   If you are really pimpin'. you would use the...   Apr 4 2006, 04:41 PM
Mueller     Apr 4 2006, 05:14 PM
Thorshammer   The outer lip needs to be rounded. The edge is ver...   Apr 4 2006, 09:05 PM
retrotech   I tested air flow with vacume cleaner suction & sm...   Apr 4 2006, 09:48 PM
Twystd1   YUP... What everybody else said about the rounded ...   Apr 5 2006, 12:43 AM
Porcharu   Get that mill going Mike. Make an insert and pres...   Apr 5 2006, 02:09 AM
jsteele22   I don't know anything about the design of velo...   Apr 5 2006, 11:28 AM
maf914   Lot's of good ideas, but how come no one has m...   Apr 5 2006, 01:31 PM
Mueller     Apr 5 2006, 01:38 PM
Aaron Cox   yummy jenevey's http://www.914w...   Apr 5 2006, 01:43 PM
Aaron Cox   OMG! they even make "injected air horns"!...   Apr 5 2006, 01:44 PM
Mueller   aaron, here is video showing how many of the spu...   Apr 5 2006, 01:50 PM
spunone   Ok one more for ya fellas .On a few nitro drag bik...   Apr 5 2006, 01:50 PM
jsteele22   I don't know why two stacks would give more ai...   Apr 5 2006, 02:43 PM
john rogers   Something to think about, are you going to run air...   Apr 5 2006, 02:49 PM
Aaron Cox   what if you had 4 different size stacks???? ...   Apr 5 2006, 03:27 PM
jsteele22   ...   Apr 5 2006, 03:28 PM
Aaron Cox     Apr 5 2006, 03:29 PM
jsteele22   ...   Apr 5 2006, 03:42 PM
bd1308   guys, we need to think outside of the box. I am g...   Apr 5 2006, 04:02 PM
TimT     Apr 5 2006, 04:15 PM
Aaron Cox     Apr 5 2006, 04:18 PM
TimT   Let Steve Timmins explain http://instant-g.com/Pr...   Apr 5 2006, 04:33 PM
Rick_Eberle   Here's what Suzuki use on their current GSX-R...   Apr 5 2006, 06:11 PM
Rick_Eberle   Showing the slots...   Apr 5 2006, 06:12 PM
maf914   ...   Apr 6 2006, 09:21 AM
Rick_Eberle     Apr 6 2006, 06:42 PM
J P Stein     Apr 6 2006, 06:51 PM
Porcharu     Apr 6 2006, 10:42 PM
fin   I believe the formula for a proper roll on the mou...   Apr 7 2006, 08:16 AM
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spunone   Sample stack headed out today UPS have fun   Apr 7 2006, 05:27 PM
Thorshammer   Since I worked for Suzuki for 5 years, I thought I...   Apr 7 2006, 11:06 PM
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