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> Should you responed to a jerk?
akellym
post Jul 17 2007, 04:24 AM
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I'll start this by saying I don't have any problem with someone telling me that I've posted something in the wrong forum. That being said...

The other day I posted in the originality/preservation forum. I found a lot of info on concours stuff there. I made the mistake of posting some info about my car there, the winnings and concours I've been to. I thought it was relative to the forum as far as concours stuff. My topic title "Not original but a winner!"

Pat closed the thread. No big deal with me, until I read the last paragraph.
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OK, I'm sure a lot of you expected me to open my mouth here. Time for me to be the bad guy. Don't really want to, because this IS a nice 914. It IS far from original (per the owner) and this IS an originality forum. And, will stay an originality form....so long as I am the Moderator.

I know I'm going to be VERY unpopular here, but I'm closing this thread.

Feel free to take it to the Garage Forum. Should have never been posted here.

This Forum is for originality/preservation. Just because you show with a slick looking, unoriginally equipped 914 & win (for whatever reason), doesn't mean you get space on his Forum. Hope I haven't hurt your feelings & all your self imposed accolades (ask me about mine!), but, as nice as your 914 is, it isn't original or preserved. Doesn't belong here.

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"self imposed accolades" kiss my ass!! Those "accolades" were given(not imposed, you ass) to me by my peers. I only posted them to show that you can win car shows and concours event with out being original or "preserved".

So Pat I'll just say I'm sorry for posting in your forum and I think your a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) for your last paragraph. Hope I didn't hurt your feelings.
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post Jul 17 2007, 11:04 AM
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I've known Pat Garvey personally for over 30 years. We have shared much over those many years. His wife, Jan, my wife Linda, Pat and I have gone on vacations together, shared countless meals, we have stayed under their roof many times, and I have been on the receiving end of his beneficence relating not only to matters 914, many times.

With that said, I can also relate that I have been, and still am on, the wrong end of his approval rating for my 914. The chastisement and criticism that I get from Pat regarding my 195/60 tires, Euro T/L lenses, SE/LE airdam, H-4 H/Ls and A/M steering wheel is constant and never-ending. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) Pat could be considered the "Concours Nazi" (sorry if I offended anyone with that appellation.) Pat jealously guards and protects the "purity" and sanctity of the OEM 914 with religious zeal.

Pat is also working his way through the dictionary. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) He has mastered the ABCs (abuse, belligerent, caustic) through S (sarcasm) and has not yet gotten to the letter "T" (tact, tolerance). I cut Pat lots of slack 'cause I know him so well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

Kelly's 914 is wonderful not only in its presentation and appearance ( I have seen it up close) but also in the fact that he drives and enjoys using his car. From what I've seen, the car is in concours condition, but not by any means original. Sort of what you might classify as "improved/custom".

So where am I going with all this? I'm with Pat that Kelly's car by all means merits Forum space, but not necessarily on the O/H section. That said, however, those of us who frequent there could certainly learn from Kelly on how to maintain a pristine car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) So in that sense, yes , that striking 914 can be featured there.

And Pat? Pat is being Pat. I accept him for just as he is and look past any shortcomings he may manifest, just as he tolerates all my foibles.

Finally I apologize to anyone if I've offended with my remarks or categorizations and any appearance that I'm taking sides. However, Pat remains my friend.

Paul
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akellym   Should you responed to a jerk?   Jul 17 2007, 04:24 AM
Joe Ricard   See if he wants to race.   Jul 17 2007, 06:00 AM
pin31   Pat, I don't get it.....no need for comments l...   Jul 17 2007, 06:37 AM
blitZ   Seems a bit uncalled for, possibly even anal. Oh,...   Jul 17 2007, 06:38 AM
thomasotten   Ok, let's see a pic of the car in question. I...   Jul 17 2007, 07:07 AM
type47   in any community, there is a huge number of differ...   Jul 17 2007, 07:42 AM
Garold Shaffer   While I'm not a concourse person, I do underst...   Jul 17 2007, 07:48 AM
Johny Blackstain   I'm sorry to have to disagree w/ you but IMHO ...   Jul 17 2007, 08:03 AM
Johny Blackstain   Quite frankly I'm surprised it took him so lo...   Jul 17 2007, 11:41 AM
orthobiz   f*ck it- I'm Italian. Like, Gianni Negro...   Jul 17 2007, 05:03 PM
Johny Blackstain   f*ck it- I'm Italian. Like, Gianni Negr...   Jul 17 2007, 05:28 PM
URY914   Pat has made some bonehead statements in the past....   Jul 17 2007, 08:07 AM
iamchappy   What's not original about it, I also have seen...   Jul 17 2007, 08:08 AM
Ferg   WOW Kelly, this sucks! I think that Pat is/wa...   Jul 17 2007, 09:03 AM
Cap'n Krusty   WOW Kelly, this sucks! I think that Pat is/w...   Jul 17 2007, 11:02 AM
Ferg   WOW Kelly, this sucks! I think that Pat is/...   Jul 17 2007, 11:34 AM
Cap'n Krusty   "Concours winner" or "Car show wi...   Jul 17 2007, 12:12 PM
Ferg   "Concours winner" or "Car show wi...   Jul 17 2007, 12:14 PM
MoveQik   Wow...where do you even start with this one? A si...   Jul 17 2007, 09:22 AM
nine14cats   Hi Kelly, Sorry to hear about your issues with th...   Jul 17 2007, 09:55 AM
SGB   Pat has gone to great effort to keep his 914 absol...   Jul 17 2007, 10:11 AM
boxstr   They seem to have a different set of standards on ...   Jul 17 2007, 10:34 AM
Johny Blackstain   :can-o-worms: :hide:   Jul 17 2007, 10:36 AM
George H.   Why close the thread? listed in the rules thread ...   Jul 17 2007, 10:39 AM
TROJANMAN   Kelly, I've seen your car in person, and I am...   Jul 17 2007, 10:47 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   I've known Pat Garvey personally for over 30 y...   Jul 17 2007, 11:04 AM
TROJANMAN   boy, I miss this place :popcorn:   Jul 17 2007, 11:05 AM
Scott Schroeder   I dont disagree with the premise that a concour fo...   Jul 17 2007, 11:26 AM
Eric_Shea   Before we're all too quick to judge, we may wa...   Jul 17 2007, 11:14 AM
Eric_Shea   Herein lies the problem. Kelly's car would ...   Jul 17 2007, 11:39 AM
Jasfsmith   Herein lies the problem. Kelly's car would...   Jul 17 2007, 12:29 PM
woobn8r   If a CW has a 914 that is judged a 96 point car .....   Jul 17 2007, 11:59 AM
ConeDodger   I have met a few people who are like Pat. They are...   Jul 17 2007, 12:04 PM
Eric_Shea   It's not so much about score as those two ca...   Jul 17 2007, 12:09 PM
Eric_Shea   Those are "Parade Rules" I posted above ...   Jul 17 2007, 12:16 PM
Eric_Shea   You need a path to success?? Paaaaaaaleeeeeeease...   Jul 17 2007, 12:35 PM
Jasfsmith   You need a path to success?? Paaaaaaaleeeeeeeas...   Jul 17 2007, 01:07 PM
Cap'n Krusty   You need a path to success?? Paaaaaaaleeeeeeea...   Jul 17 2007, 08:48 PM
kart54   Well, I'm going to stick my nose in here a...   Jul 17 2007, 12:52 PM
computers4kids   As of this date, this forum is evolving - thankfu...   Jul 17 2007, 02:23 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   :angry: :angry: When my (2) children have a fig...   Jul 17 2007, 02:38 PM
akellym   Let me state this again... I have no problem with ...   Jul 17 2007, 03:12 PM
Rand   Is that quote really from who it suggests? Realit...   Jul 17 2007, 04:10 PM
URY914   Pat are you reading all this and have nothing to s...   Jul 17 2007, 04:51 PM
Eric_Shea   I like "Skippy"... :P   Jul 17 2007, 05:30 PM
JohnM   Kelly- "...sometimes you just have to give a...   Jul 17 2007, 06:16 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Kelly- "...sometimes you just have to give ...   Jul 17 2007, 07:04 PM
jwalters   Well, hello there - :type: I read you too have ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:21 PM
SLITS   I can't stand it ..... Oh the drama :chairfa...   Jul 17 2007, 06:56 PM
jwalters   I can't stand it ..... Oh the drama :chairf...   Jul 17 2007, 08:56 PM
Eric_Shea   It is "kinda" funny but it reeks of a ma...   Jul 17 2007, 07:12 PM
orthobiz   OK, my 4 cents. The post originally really doesn...   Jul 17 2007, 07:58 PM
ConeDodger   OK, my 4 cents. The post originally really doesn...   Jul 17 2007, 08:24 PM
URY914   I see the tread is now unlocked but moved to the g...   Jul 17 2007, 08:36 PM
ConeDodger   I see the tread is now unlocked but moved to the ...   Jul 17 2007, 08:42 PM
URY914   I see the tread is now unlocked but moved to the...   Jul 17 2007, 08:54 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='924794' date='Jul ...   Jul 17 2007, 08:57 PM
drew365   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='924794' date='Jul ...   Jul 17 2007, 09:08 PM
MoveQik   I think we should all post pictures of our cars ...   Jul 17 2007, 09:19 PM
carreraguy   I remember the good ol' days when I had a ...   Jul 17 2007, 09:28 PM
brant   I love it when I read these threads and come acros...   Jul 17 2007, 09:44 PM
drewvw   I personally like to respond to jerks because its ...   Jul 17 2007, 10:04 PM
jwalters   I personally like to respond to jerks because its...   Jul 18 2007, 06:07 AM
Rob Ways   The 914 is a truly spectacular car that attracts r...   Jul 17 2007, 11:18 PM
SLITS   I am a jerk and an asshole. I'm proud of it. ...   Jul 18 2007, 09:46 AM


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