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Spanked by a Civic?, Do you think a brand new 197 HP Civic Si can beat a |
angerosa |
Sep 18 2007, 03:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 21-August 07 From: Reston, VA Member No.: 8,023 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Do you think a brand new 197 HP Civic Si can beat a 914 with 3.0 6 conversion? My buddy who doesn't have a preference either way says that the civic will win hands down (he has a VW symbol tattooed on his calf too). Even if the 914-6 has 260 - 280 HP. What do you guys think? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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Brett W |
Sep 20 2007, 11:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
I can agree with Grant's argument to some degree. The Civic makes peak torque in the 6100rpm range. With some ECU tuning I would imagine you could improve the power in the lower rpm range. But Honda has never been about making gobs of lowend torque. They have always been of the sport bike mentality. Which in my opinion is the way the 914 should be. it should have a high winding motor that more closely fits the personality of a sports car. The Tractor motor should never have been put in that car.
Now The bigger Honda engines are not total gutless wonders. The 1.8 B series engine is a strong torquey engine. It is great to drive around town. The SOHC engines have no torque and no power in stock trim. But my turbo engine makes great bottom end torque. Yet a different discussion. Mazda makes some nice cars, too bad they are just rebadged Fords. Plus I don;t see how anyone can drive a Miata and call that a fun driving experience. The damn thing feels like it is going to tip over at any minute and it definitely doesn't feel planted and solid like my teener. The Civic should have different driving characteristics than the S2000. I would go drive one and see how it feels around town before comparing it. One thing I noticed doing some other research the other night, my 1994 GMC 1500 truck weighs less than a new Mustang. 3611lbs vs. 3950. What was Ford thinking and where did they hide all of the weight. I would like to take a modern K series engine from Honda (probably the 2.4 engine) and drop it in a lighter CRX or 88 Civic and drive it daily. That car would be awesome as a daily driver. 2100lbs with 260hp, plus Honda reliability. But I digress. |
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