Want to flat tow my 914, Is a VW super beatle front suspension similar? |
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Want to flat tow my 914, Is a VW super beatle front suspension similar? |
Porsche Rescue |
Oct 12 2009, 12:09 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
I once had a great flat tow set up using a vw tow bar and some custom brackets which bolted to the front floor/torsion bar mount. Unfortunatley I sold the system with the car. Now I want to flat tow my 914 as a motor home tow car.
Bug pack makes a bar and also a bracket which attaches to a Super Beatle. Wondering if it might work on a 914. Anyone know anything? Any other ideas? |
URY914 |
Oct 12 2009, 12:32 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,115 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I used to flat tow my 914 race car. I used a Super Bettle tow bar set up but had a bracket made that bolted up to the stock bumper mounting holes. I just had to remove the bumper each time to mount the bracket. But it was pretty easy to do. I only used two bolts on the bumper.
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Ferg |
Oct 12 2009, 12:36 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Gint has a real slick setup. Pretty sure it's 914 specific, but watching him hook up and unhook it's super easy.
Pretty sure he got it through a clubmember, I'm sure he'll chime in when he see's this. Ferg |
Gary |
Oct 12 2009, 12:58 PM
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Porsche Rescue |
Oct 12 2009, 01:35 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Thanks all. I'll wait for Gint but it looks like the Rennenmetal bracket is the answer. Not cheap but simple and safe. Now to find a bra.....I bet I have had a half dozen over the years and sold them all!
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Ferg |
Oct 12 2009, 02:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Pretty sure that's what Gint has... sure looks like it anyhow.
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hot_shoe914 |
Oct 14 2009, 02:02 AM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,802 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
Get a good used towdolly off CL for about 500.00 and use it. Easy and economical.
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DBCooper |
Oct 14 2009, 07:31 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
Dollys are O.K., but I greatly prefer to flat tow myself. It's cheaper, easier, more stable so I think safer, you don't have to license the dolly every year, takes up almost no storage space, is a lot narrower than a dolly so you don't have to concentrate on staying in the center of the lane, and I don't need a truck, can tow the 914 behind my Volvo. In fact have, from California to Texas and back several times, and it's like it's not even behind the car. Way over the speed limit and never even a twitch.
Only serious down side I can see is that with a pickup (which I don't have) and a dolly I could tow different kinds of cars. With the Rennenmetal setup it's just a 914. I don't tow any other cars, so that one's a non-factor for me, but I figure if that ever came up and I really needed to I could just rent a dolly. They're cheap. |
plas76targa |
Oct 14 2009, 08:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 885 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Frederick, MD Member No.: 1,700 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Jim - I have one of the DLEE tow brackets. Works great. it's not the VW bar version bit works the same. I did have to change from the stock valence or remove that to fit. Regardless, great product that I'd recommend. |
Porsche Rescue |
Oct 14 2009, 09:42 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Thanks all. I was offered and have purchased a slightly used Dlee bracket and Drawtite bar from a world member.
I decided against the tow dolly since I am going to tow behind a motorhome and don't want to have another item to contend with when I unhitch. Now, who can help with the next issue...lights. The set up I once had (came with the car so I did not fabricate it) had a wire harness in the front trunk that tapped into the rear lights for towing. I believe it connected up front and did not run all the way to the tail of the car. Can I find wires to splice into under the dash/fuse panel? Here is a pic of that car. Sold through Craig at Camp 914. Anyone here own it now (the Yokohama decal is gone). |
Ferg |
Oct 14 2009, 10:00 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Find a stand alone set of lights that would plug into the pre-existing harness on the hitch. Then you don't have to fiddle with the 914 and just unplug when you arrive. The big magnet's should attach to the engine lid for the stand alone lights, and run the cords through the front trunk and tape along window seal with (blue painters tape (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) then it's done.
Ferg |
VaccaRabite |
Oct 14 2009, 11:02 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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super beetle tow bar, rennmetal tow bar linkage, magnetic towing lights on the deck lid under the targa bar. I towed it about 60 miles with my little Subaru (rated for 2000lbs towing) but it pulled easier with Mike's Vue. With the Suby, going was not an issue, but stopping was. Zach |
Porsche Rescue |
Oct 14 2009, 11:52 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Zach, how do you route the light cord? Like Ferg said or a different way?
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jhadler |
Oct 14 2009, 01:02 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
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Porsche Rescue |
Oct 14 2009, 01:36 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
I agree. I have towed a number of 914's long distance with a dolly (So CA to Oregon). It is a good way if the purpose is to pick-up or deliver a 914. I have often had trouble with the dolly ramps hitting the bottom of the longs when the car is low. Flat tow is better when the same car is going to be towed often, such as to events or behind an RV.
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VaccaRabite |
Oct 14 2009, 05:10 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Zach, how do you route the light cord? Like Ferg said or a different way? I don't have a picture, so follow along in your mind. 1)Open the front trunk, pull out lights. Leave trunk open. 2)Lights get stuck on the back under the targa bar, 3)put a wrap or two around the tow bar (with enough swing room for the car) and I plug in the hitch end. 4)Lay majority of cord in front trunk and GENTLY close the trunk, holding it in place. 5)Put any remaining slack between front trunk and targa bar between the top of the side window and the targa seal. Almost none of the cord is outside to get caught by wind, people, trees, etc. Zach |
jsayre914 |
Oct 14 2009, 05:28 PM
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Speed Up !!! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
zach, your car looks really nice in that pic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
and noel makes it all that much better |
r_towle |
Oct 14 2009, 05:35 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
zach, your car looks really nice in that pic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) and noel makes it all that much better That is the only way I have ever seen it on the road.... Rich |
VaccaRabite |
Oct 14 2009, 05:42 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Come to Hershey next year Rich. Its driving now, it should be driving then. *should*
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Porsche Rescue |
Oct 14 2009, 06:24 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Thanks Ferg and Zach. Magnet lights it is.
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