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> It's official, fuch the /4...... I'm doing a six, I'm nuts, JP wins
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post Nov 3 2009, 11:04 PM
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double checked very careful to roll it perfect 3.63mm

I only see 3.3 for the E/L carb or the elgin "mod B"
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post Nov 4 2009, 12:12 AM
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like JP said double check by measuring #4 at overlap.


At least now you know where they were set regaurdless of what they are when removed.

probably E or custom advanced or regrind or set wrong.

The chart is lift at the valve at overlap in MM.

good job
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post Nov 4 2009, 12:12 AM
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I wouldn't think that an "E" cam was all that bad ... it's a step up from "T".
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post Nov 4 2009, 07:49 AM
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The E is an excellent street cam.
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post Nov 4 2009, 10:21 AM
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Guess I was smokin last night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) plus I'm getting blind in my old age...

Got my head around this now #1 is 2.85mm and #4 2.68mm
The Little bastard™ is just a 2.2T (72-73)
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core (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Oh well you cant win them all, still worth it, I did get a set of 40IDA's and a 69S dizzy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There is another 2.2T core local but then I'd have two bags of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)

Anyone got something interesting for sale? or trade for type 4 parts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 4 2009, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Nov 4 2009, 10:12 AM) *

core (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Oh well you cant win them all, still worth it, I did get a set of 40IDA's and a 69S dizzy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There is another 2.2T core local but then I'd have two bags of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)

Anyone got something interesting for sale? or trade for type 4 parts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


67 S cams and 69 S Ported heads that sat for 20 years in the car. I am putting on fresh 2.7s heads and a custom cam. This is to get better mid range power.

Bob
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Nov 4 2009, 10:12 AM) *

core (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Oh well you cant win them all, still worth it, I did get a set of 40IDA's and a 69S dizzy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There is another 2.2T core local but then I'd have two bags of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)

Anyone got something interesting for sale? or trade for type 4 parts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


67 S cams and 69 S Ported heads that sat for 20 years in the car. I am putting on fresh 2.7s heads and a custom cam. This is to get better mid range power.

Bob


It would be cool to have a mighty mouse engine, I can even get JE repops of the S pistons and cylinders ($1500), but bigger is better and the rebuild costs the same.
I know where some cores are and I have the whole winter to scrounge.

I'll rip the top end down on the bastard 2.2 and see if it just needs rings and a valve job or if it has some pulled head studs. If I have to split the case then it's parts on ebay.
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post Nov 4 2009, 08:51 PM
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if it has some pulled head studs

rare on a 2.2
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post Nov 7 2009, 06:01 AM
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Well my engine is interesting but not special.

The only real bonus is the 2.0 biral cylinders 80mm, they do look like they just need honing, no ridge.

Pistons are from a 68 (T, I think) and two are pooched.
heads are small valve 69T
cams are T

Short block still needs looking into, but it doesn't look good if it's like the top end.

Now what to do.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


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post Nov 8 2009, 09:16 AM
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Those cylinders are very good news indeed. IF the case has pistons squirters & the crank is good, you have the makings of a good small bore hot rod motor should you choose to go that way. It would require some time, effort, and money.......but not a huge amount of the latter.

The Pelican engine rebuild/classifieds site is your friend for 9eleben engine stuff.
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post Nov 8 2009, 10:57 AM
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Crank and rods looking OK, pins are tight in the small end of the rods but, '69T case so no squirters.

I know you can get the JE's 69S pistons,but it's only a 2.0
Rebuilds are about the same regardless of size and I know where a 2.7 is lurking.

Lets say I was to do a little screamer....
The bottom end of a 2.2 is the same with squirter's, right?
I can't figure out who sells JE 69S pistons other than the ebay guy and thats a kit with china cylinders. Plus I need a bore as they are 82.5mm. Real 69S pistons are rare.
Custom JE pistons from LN are $1K

Do 2.2 heads fit on 2.0 cylinder?

Done a bit of research, much more needed.
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post Nov 8 2009, 11:13 AM
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Your cylinders can be bored to 84mm, IIRC (IIRC means you'd better check). 2.2L pistons are often available used.....9.8 :1 compression in the S model. The 2.2L case has squirters, IIRC.


The 2.7L is not cheap to hotrod assuming you find a straight one....unless you find some RS P/Cs at a very good price. Even then the 8.5:1 compression is not all that hot. I admit to being lucky with the long block I got for $500....with RS P/Cs.
A lot of work went into it....being a CSOB helped. Proper head studs are a killer expense....case savers, yada.
That said, even a stocker will give you a ride. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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I almost have the other side off, about an hour to go.
I think this side is OK as it had the good numbers.
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Spoke too soon, short block is a fail. Got a rod standing up on its own.
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post Nov 8 2009, 05:34 PM
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I thought that engine was supposed to be a runner?
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I thought that engine was supposed to be a runner?


No it never was, during the haggling, story is he said it was suppose to have "hot cams" and I said "that's great but it's just a 2.0 core and worth maybe $500 in the deal". It rolled over OK, so it seemed.

I got the 80mm birals, dizzy, flywheel and PP, and 2.0T core parts, I'm still doing OK on the deal.
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It's ads like this why I recommend the pelican 911 classifieds. If you need a part, look often.....I go about 3-4 times a day when I'm on the hunt.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...-f-s-trade.html

I don't know the guy.

I got a set of NIB Mahle 10.5 :1 P/Cs that had been on there for 15 minutes..2800 bucks..... about half the price of new from Andial...if they had em'.
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It's ads like this why I recommend the pelican 911 classifieds. If you need a part, look often.....I go about 3-4 times a day when I'm on the hunt.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...-f-s-trade.html

I don't know the guy.

I got a set of NIB Mahle 10.5 :1 P/Cs that had been on there for 15 minutes..2800 bucks..... about half the price of new from Andial...if they had em'.


Gee thanks JP..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

Problem is I have to whore a whole boatload of type 4, 914 and bug parts before I have the cash for this money pit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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