Narrow body fuch 7R fitment, anyone running fuch 7R wheels? Options

[tomkirkcis]

.I have been running searches for a couple of hours but can't find any info on fitment of 7r fuchs on a 914.

I have a narrow body 1970 factory 914-6 that has a hot 3.2SS motor and a close ratio LSD box Dr Evil built for me. It currently has 205/50 on 6 x 15 fuchs. Not enough tire .

I have some AA metal flairs I got in a group buy a couple of years ago that I inteneded to install. I have four 9 x 16 fuchs that I was going to install all around . Certainly would take care things

I am having second thoughts about installing flairs. It is just so much fun having a stock looking 914 with a big motor.

I have access to a set of 4 7r Fuchs with 225/50 Brigestones. These are the Fuchs with the large backspacing

Is anyone have 7Rs fitted to a narrow body?
What tires can you fit?
What spacers?

Thanks
Tom

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

The seven rsr wheel fits great with a 205 but not 225 unless the fender lip is adjusted ruining the stock look
I would agree that if you have a nice car with a big engine keep the stock wheel wells. A real sleeper!
] On the other hand making a 914 into a GT clone is the rage these days much like the guys are doing with the 911 models turning them into an rs. The best candidates for this conversion are the 964 models.

I would not put 9 inch in the front only 7 inch. You do not need them and it will affect turn in.

.I have been running searches for a couple of hours but can't find any info on fitment of 7r fuchs on a 914.

I have a narrow body 1970 factory 914-6 that has a hot 3.2SS motor and a close ratio LSD box Dr Evil built for me. It currently has 205/50 on 6 x 15 fuchs. Not enough tire .

I have some AA metal flairs I got in a group buy a couple of years ago that I inteneded to install. I have four 9 x 16 fuchs that I was going to install all around . Certainly would take care things

I am having second thoughts about installing flairs. It is just so much fun having a stock looking 914 with a big motor.

I have access to a set of 4 7r Fuchs with 225/50 Brigestones. These are the Fuchs with the large backspacing

Is anyone have 7Rs fitted to a narrow body?
What tires can you fit?
What spacers?

Thanks
Tom

[underthetire]

I have the large backspace 16X7 dials on my narrow body (wish I could be called that) with spacers. 205/50/16 is all that will fit without doing a tug and pull. 1 1/4 " spacers on mine. Your results may vary. BTW, even the 205's get wider with the 7" rim, it spreads them out a bit.

[campbellcj]

There are other options for flares besides the factory GT style, for example the Tangerine Racing / Chris Foley setup, 911 flares, or hammer & dolly stretching/shrinking of the existing metal. I am planning to go the Tangerine flare route as I feel the same as you about a "sleeper" stock looking car. I am loosely following the 911R type of concept i.e. lightweight, high power, narrow body. Plus I just don't like the tacked-on look of the GT flares vs something that follows the normal body lines.

I suspect it would make a big difference if you could get to 8's with 225's. You get the sidewalls straight and nearly 1" more rubber on the ground compared to 205's.

I am currently running 205's on 16x7's all around, and I am hoping to get to 225's on 8's if not 245's on 9's in the rear and at least 225's in the front as well.

[tomkirkcis]

[quote name='dr914@autoatlanta.com' date='Jan 23 2010, 11:44 AM' post='1264876']
The seven rsr wheel fits great with a 205 but not 225 unless the fender lip is adjusted ruining the stock look


Dr.
When you mention rsr wheels, are we speaking about the same early 7R with 49mm offset? Does that mean 205's are max regardless of wheel?

[burton73]

The seven rsr wheel fits great with a 205 but not 225 unless the fender lip is adjusted ruining the stock look
I would agree that if you have a nice car with a big engine keep the stock wheel wells. A real sleeper!
] On the other hand making a 914 into a GT clone is the rage these days much like the guys are doing with the 911 models turning them into an rs. The best candidates for this conversion are the 964 models.

I would not put 9 inch in the front only 7 inch. You do not need them and it will affect turn in.

.I have been running searches for a couple of hours but can't find any info on fitment of 7r fuchs on a 914.

I have a narrow body 1970 factory 914-6 that has a hot 3.2SS motor and a close ratio LSD box Dr Evil built for me. It currently has 205/50 on 6 x 15 fuchs. Not enough tire .

I have some AA metal flairs I got in a group buy a couple of years ago that I inteneded to install. I have four 9 x 16 fuchs that I was going to install all around . Certainly would take care things

I am having second thoughts about installing flairs. It is just so much fun having a stock looking 914 with a big motor.

I have access to a set of 4 7r Fuchs with 225/50 Brigestones. These are the Fuchs with the large backspacing

Is anyone have 7Rs fitted to a narrow body?
What tires can you fit?
What spacers?

Thanks
Tom

George,

I plan to run 8" 16 up front and 9" 16 in the back of my 6 #41 with your flares. Roll the lips and put an Elephant front turn limiter so the front tires do not scrape the inner fender wells. No spacers.

Tom,

The picture shown is of my V8 car with 7” x 16 Fuchs 911 offset. The lip is rolled. This car is getting 951 offset 7” and 8” Fuchs with 245 rears and 225 fronts.

There are pictures of people on this board running 8” 951 wheels with just a small bit of adjustment to the stock body. The 8” 951 look just like the 7” 911 wheel and need just the lip rolled. One of them will step up or you may find it in the search area. 8 rear 7 front

Bob

[tomkirkcis]

I have a pair of 951 8 x 16 that I bought as a possible front wheel if I installed the flares. Are you telling me it may fit a narrow body rear?

If so, with what rubber?

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

[quote name='tomkirkcis' date='Jan 23 2010, 11:22 AM' post='1264911']
[quote name='dr914@autoatlanta.com' date='Jan 23 2010, 11:44 AM' post='1264876']
The seven rsr wheel fits great with a 205 but not 225 unless the fender lip is adjusted ruining the stock look


Dr.
When you mention rsr wheels, are we speaking about the same early 7R with 49mm offset? Does that mean 205's are max regardless of wheel?
[/quote]

yes and yes the sevens would look great under the fenders, those wheels are expensive though. Nice that you found them. I would never semi flare the rear arches though. Looks bad unless you do it the way Porsche did with the eight cylinder. But with the sevens you will not need to and as you said at first you will have a great handling sleeper!

[burton73]

Tom,

This is a picture of sixnotfour car wit 245-45-16 SO-s’s on 951 8’s roll the lip and pull a little. You still keep the stock body. That is what I have and am doing, as 400 ft lb with a LSD on a 930 should keep the rubber from spinning too much.

Bob

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

Tom,

This is a picture of sixnotfour car wit 245-45-16 SO-s’s on 951 8’s roll the lip and pull a little. You still keep the stock body. That is what I have and am doing, as 400 ft lb with a LSD on a 930 should keep the rubber from spinning too much.

Bob

wow you have some good negative camber going there!

[brant]

you actually might get the 225's depending on the car
I'm running 215's on the 14inch rims... these very rims and tires were on a stock 914/6 fendered car at one time

the 14inch fuch has a very similar offset to the 7R's
I think only 2mm difference

[tomkirkcis]

Thanks for posting the image. I am amazed 245 fit as well as they do, I was expecting the body to be far more distorted to stuff that size rubber into that wheel well. It gives me more hope about my 225s.

I was checking out the space I currently have with deep 6 fuchs and 205/50 B F Goodwrichs. I have enough room to run my fingers between the tire and fender with completely stock openings. I have been studying the wheel charts and the 7R extra inch is all to the inside. The 225's should be 10mm wider on the outside and 10mm wider on the inside It would be close but the 10mm width on the outside of the tire "might" just fit. I have no clue if the extra width to the inside would rub on the tub.

I will start by doing some test fitting. The 951 wheels I have have no rubber on them so I can't try them as easy as the Rs. I won't get around to this for a little while, it's a little cold out there, New England winters . I will report back

Thanks

[burton73]

8x16 Offset 23.3 (944) Backspace mm 120
951.362.117.00; offset compatible for front application
7x16 Offset 23.3 (944) Backspace mm 138
951.362.115.00, add'l clearance for larger calipers

I have 4 951 7” and 4 8” If the 8” look like they will not fit right then I will use the 7” 951 with the 225/50 16 that should still be good tire on all 4 fours. I have not put my new trick suspension on yet but it is going on very soon. I will test fit the tires on rims and then if the 245 are too big I will use them on my 9” on my 86 Carrera. The ones on there look new but are 9 years old.

Bob

[Michael N]

This chart help me when I was trying to decide when switching from 14" x 5.5" fuchs to 16 x 6 fuchs on a /6. There are so many factors since there are some wide 205's.

[HaraldD]

Hello!
I`m driving 7"R Wheels all around and also 7 + 8 x 16 (951) from 944 Turbo. For the 7"R Rims you hva to take Spacers (on my Car 27mm). On the 7R Rims i have 185/70/15. The rear Fenders are bumbed out about 1 inch and rolled. In the Front it`s not bumped, but also with Spacers and rolled. If you don`t take Spacers, the Wheel will "scratch" the Body. On the 951 i have 195/50/16 in the Front and 205/50/16 in the rear. There is not much place at the rear Fenders between the Rubber and the Body, maybe 5mm.

[pete-stevers]

3.2ss that is exactly what i am dreaming of building!
what cams are you running?
What other mods to the engine??
My thoughts are, put your flares on...and use the 9x16s and be done with it.
the 7r s will be super pricey and you will still be farting around with fender lips regardless, i ran 16x7s with 225s now i am running eights and sevens with 245s out back.

[tomkirkcis]

Harald

Your 914 is gorgeous. Thanks for posting the images.

Tom

[tomkirkcis]

Pete

The engine has weber 46s with 40mm venturis, it has the max moritiz mahle piston cylender set. The heads are early large port SC heads that have been ported and polished. the cams are GE 60s. The engine is twin plugged with a modified sc dissy that is modified with rsr rotor and cap. The exhasust headers are European Racing Headers and the muffler is a nasty 2 in 2 out sport muffler with 3" outlets.

Dr Evil did a thread on the box build. There are a couple images of the car.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=93944

[pete-stevers]

yup...sounds like a nasty lil machine, you will need more tire,
a thought might be going flared, and running some big 17s where there is more tire availability, and re-enforcing your rear suspension, if not already done....
where does it end???
.......
What type of hp do you get at the rear wheels??
have you done any internal mods?

[messix]

don't roll, use a thin cut off wheel on a die grinder and cut the lip but leave about 1/4 inch. it's to easy to cause some damage that you will have to repair.
and to get some streach use a shot bag or sand bag agianst the fender and a 2x4 on that and then use a sissor jack against the inner fender well. this should keep from distorting the outer fender while getting about an inch pushed out.