Porsche 916 Options

[carr914]

All the 916s were given/sold to Porsche family members.

definitely not !!!

5 cars were given to members of the Porsche / Piech family (Wolfgang Porsche, Gerhard Porsche, Dr. Michael Porsche, Ferdinand Piech and Luise Piech)

the other cars were sold to "good customers of the Porsche factory"

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Gustl

Family Members/Good Customers is correct - that is what I was going for originally, but lost my train of thought

[RiqueMar]

and i am pretty sure there is plenty of other legit documentation on the web...

Who decides what is legit?

[RiqueMar]

All the 916s were given/sold to Porsche family members.

definitely not !!!

5 cars were given to members of the Porsche / Piech family (Wolfgang Porsche, Gerhard Porsche, Dr. Michael Porsche, Ferdinand Piech and Luise Piech)

the other cars were sold to "good customers of the Porsche factory"

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Gustl

Family Members/Good Customers is correct - that is what I was going for originally, but lost my train of thought

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the '+1' the 916 that one of the 'Special Works' mechanics made over a period of a few years?

[realred914]

so the guy that dont like the 916 thinks this is good...

Never said i didnt like them. i just think that they are missing a huge selling factor: the targa
they are a 914...

per wikipedia:
The Flex has not been successful, with sales less half the target of 100,000 vehicles that Ford had expected to sell each year. The disappointing sales have been attributed to several factors; being too expensive compared to minivans like the Toyota Sienna, while its boxy and polarizing exterior styling was not popular among suburbanites. However, Ford was hesitant to discontinue the Flex, as it can be produced at relatively low cost since it shares the same platform as the Lincoln MKT, Ford Taurus and Lincoln MKS. To spur sales of the Flex, Ford is offering "Employee Pricing" (dealer invoice pricing), plus $5,000 CAD in incentives.[11]

per wikipedia: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.
RED FLAG!!!

That means not always fact. I could go into wikipedia if i wanted to and say that the flex is the best selling ford of all time.
on the same note i could go in and say that the 916 werent produced because porsche realized the flaws

thak is one ugly ford, awfull ugly heck they cant even sell them all. them small windows and low roof line make it a clusterfophibic cave like interior. plus it has no targa roof. plus visability is so bad rear ward they added a rear view camera Wonder how long all these electric gizmos will last????


puke (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

so much for taste.

just cuz u dont like it doesnt make my taste bad... just means we have different tastes.
AND THAT IS OK.

give me a 916 with a blown motor anyday over a a new flex.

If i had to choose between the 2 i also would choose the 916 with the blown motor over the flex any day... BUT i would still sell it and go back to my original statement.

well if you want to dispute what wikipedia stated that i copied, then bring on your facts on the flex, at least the wikipedia atrticle is referanced. you will of course supply refuting refereance that will disprove the facts I got from wikipedia, Right?

what dont you agree with: the fact that the sales are only about half of what ford expected, or the fact some folks attribute the poor sales to the styling that is not popular, or the price is thought to be too high compaired to a competing brand? which fact(s) is in dispute here?

if you got better facts, bring it on baby!

[steveherman]

and i am pretty sure there is plenty of other legit documentation on the web...

Who decides what is legit?

people with the documentation.

[carr914]

Well, kiiiiiinda. Your entry is still subject to be submitted/verified and if it doesn't have a reference, it wont fly. It is imperfect, but I would say for the incredible amount of information it provides, its comparable.


Oh hey! Look! 2 Pennies!

well i would venture to say that George could be called to testify in a court of law as an expert.
here is an ad that he wrote to sell his 916.
http://www.thisweekinmotors.com/1972-porsc...ket-for-495000/

and i am pretty sure there is plenty of other legit documentation on the web...

Except that Ad has inaccuracies. 1st of all, the 916 is Not for sale. George does this every few years to get attention. He would lose his claim to having "the Best 914 Collection in the World" if he sold it. 2nd, The Interior made it past the Port. Here is a picture of the original ( which George should replicate). I have seen other pictures that Bill Warner took.

[RiqueMar]

people with the documentation.

Then you should love Wikipedia, it has documentation (references) at the bottom of each page. It's as though you're reading a college essay. It's pretty rad.

[underthetire]

Groovy baby!

[steveherman]

so the guy that dont like the 916 thinks this is good...

Never said i didnt like them. i just think that they are missing a huge selling factor: the targa
they are a 914...

per wikipedia:
The Flex has not been successful, with sales less half the target of 100,000 vehicles that Ford had expected to sell each year. The disappointing sales have been attributed to several factors; being too expensive compared to minivans like the Toyota Sienna, while its boxy and polarizing exterior styling was not popular among suburbanites. However, Ford was hesitant to discontinue the Flex, as it can be produced at relatively low cost since it shares the same platform as the Lincoln MKT, Ford Taurus and Lincoln MKS. To spur sales of the Flex, Ford is offering "Employee Pricing" (dealer invoice pricing), plus $5,000 CAD in incentives.[11]

per wikipedia: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.
RED FLAG!!!

That means not always fact. I could go into wikipedia if i wanted to and say that the flex is the best selling ford of all time.
on the same note i could go in and say that the 916 werent produced because porsche realized the flaws

thak is one ugly ford, awfull ugly heck they cant even sell them all. them small windows and low roof line make it a clusterfophibic cave like interior. plus it has no targa roof. plus visability is so bad rear ward they added a rear view camera Wonder how long all these electric gizmos will last????


puke (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

so much for taste.

just cuz u dont like it doesnt make my taste bad... just means we have different tastes.
AND THAT IS OK.

give me a 916 with a blown motor anyday over a a new flex.

If i had to choose between the 2 i also would choose the 916 with the blown motor over the flex any day... BUT i would still sell it and go back to my original statement.

well if you want to dispute what wikipedia stated that i copied, then bring on your facts on the flex, at least the wikipedia atrticle is referanced. you will of course supply refuting refereance that will disprove the facts I got from wikipedia, Right?

what dont you agree with: the fact that the sales are only about half of what ford expected, or the fact some folks attribute the poor sales to the styling that is not popular, or the price is thought to be too high compaired to a competing brand? which fact(s) is in dispute here?

if you got better facts, bring it on baby!

i have absolutely no facts on the flex.
i dont agree or disagree with what you said.
i dont care what previous sales are.
i dont need facts to have the desire to want one.
i want it because I LIKE IT... no other reason.
I dont care if Ferdinand Porsche would have hated it... I dont care if everyone in the country hates it BUT me... i still want it.

[steveherman]

people with the documentation.

Then you should love Wikipedia, it has documentation (references) at the bottom of each page. It's as though you're reading a college essay. It's pretty rad.

yet wikipedia is an unacceptable point of reference in probably any college in the country.

[carr914]

All the 916s were given/sold to Porsche family members.

definitely not !!!

5 cars were given to members of the Porsche / Piech family (Wolfgang Porsche, Gerhard Porsche, Dr. Michael Porsche, Ferdinand Piech and Luise Piech)

the other cars were sold to "good customers of the Porsche factory"

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Gustl

Family Members/Good Customers is correct - that is what I was going for originally, but lost my train of thought

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the '+1' the 916 that one of the 'Special Works' mechanics made over a period of a few years?

No, in my mind that is not a 916. As I remember that is a big bumper car 914-6

This is the +1. I used to drive it in Track Events @ Sebring. It had 35-50 Pages of documentation and it was made from a Real 914-6 instead of a 914 tub.

In my opinion it is no longer a 916, because it was taken apart for restoration and the wife of the owner stole/sold off the Real 916 bits. It was put back together, but lacks the correct stuff. It is still in Florida

[RiqueMar]

people with the documentation.

Then you should love Wikipedia, it has documentation (references) at the bottom of each page. It's as though you're reading a college essay. It's pretty rad.

yet wikipedia is an unacceptable point of reference in probably any college in the country.

Well if you are using an APA or MLA format, it would actually make it quite easy, because, as I said, the source is listed at the bottom.

So, I could see it going somewhat like this....

"Hey! It says here on Wikipedia that [Insert fact/information/relation], cool! I'll just scroll down and look for the reference and insert it into my paper! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) . Awesome! Now I can go play beer-pong!"

[RiqueMar]

What makes it a 'plus 1' instead of say, number 12?

[steveherman]

people with the documentation.

Then you should love Wikipedia, it has documentation (references) at the bottom of each page. It's as though you're reading a college essay. It's pretty rad.

yet wikipedia is an unacceptable point of reference in probably any college in the country.

Well if you are using an APA or MLA format, it would actually make it quite easy, because, as I said, the source is listed at the bottom.

So, I could see it going somewhat like this....

"Hey! It says here on Wikipedia that [Insert fact/information/relation], cool! I'll just scroll down and look for the reference and insert it into my paper! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) . Awesome! Now I can go play beer-pong!"

and then you get an "F"... yeah for you... way to go genius
professors at the beginning tell you that wikipedia is not an acceptable reference point.

[RiqueMar]

and then you get an "F"... yeah for you... way to go genius
professors at the beginning tell you that wikipedia is not an acceptable reference point.

Not really, but ok (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

[carr914]

What makes it a 'plus 1' instead of say, number 12?

Because it was not part of the original run of 11, was made a year or so later @ Porsche by & for a Porsche employee, was a 914-6 VIN and was never excepted by all the experts as a "True" 916. As I said, it no longer has any of it's 916 pieces. I think it has a 3.0 litre motor as the woman sold off the 2.4. When it was apart and sitting under an Oak tree with flash rust, she offered it to me for $25K, but I passed as all the parts were gone and I'm not sure she still had the Documentation.

[MoveQik]

Didn't the 916 have a "real" carrera 3.2 or something in it?

Sweet...I converted my 75 1.8 to a 916. The first $200k can have it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[johannes]

That tread is first class troll ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

[Zimms]

Cool Photo TC. Have you come across any in color?

[nsr-jamie]

So how much would a real 916 go for if one was available for sale? Just curious...and where would you go about finding one too....are any of the original cars for sale right now?