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| mepstein |
 Apr 7 2011, 04:43 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting  Group: Members Posts: 19,313 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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QUOTE(campbellcj @ Apr 6 2011, 11:54 PM)  QUOTE(Bee Jay @ Apr 3 2011, 10:16 PM) The new lens are very transparent from the side. You could not see the bulbs from the side with the originals. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1301894163.3.jpg) Looking good! IIRC there is a separate little reflector piece inside the stock housings that covers the bulb from the side, so you can't see it like that. Or am I confusing it with the 911 tail lamp? Chris - you are correct. Mark |
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| jimkelly |
Apr 7 2011, 04:58 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
believe it or not - the dmv inspector guy here in delaware noticed mine were missing and dinged for not having them.
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| Bee Jay |
Apr 13 2011, 10:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
Good news. As promised the Carbs are set up perfectly for a 3.0 liter.
The carb set up Anderson recommends is: 40IDA-3C carbs 34 mm venturis 34mm F3 emulsion tubes F3 160 main jets 155 175 air correction jets 175 60 or 65 idle jets, maybe even bigger to avoid part throttle surge 65 I'm waiting on intake manfolds to mount the carbs to the engine. In the mean time, I have a few questions. What spark plugs should I run with a carbed 3.0 with stock cams? Where do you get affordable (cheap) spark plug wires? What oil filter do you run on a Velios Oil tank like I have? I need to buy new distributor cap and rotor too. I guess I should make this engine as complete as possible before mounting it into the car. Bee Jay |
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| Bee Jay |
Apr 19 2011, 12:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
I've got intake manifolds. They didn't look like this when I got them. I let them soak overnight in the parts washer, then I attacked them with my wire brush wheel. One small problem, these are two right side manifolds. The supplier said I simply make a left side manifold by removing the shaft from one of the manifolds. How do I do that? Do the shafts just pull out? Do I have to have them pressed out?I plan to paint them silver.
Bee Jay (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1303196022.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1303196022.2.jpg) |
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| Bee Jay |
Apr 24 2011, 03:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
OK. I have webers and I have factory 911 carb manifolds. I assumed all I needed were PMO insulators to put the manifolds onto my 82 3.0CIS heads. But when the Cap'n called PMO to order the insulators, the PMO guy poo poo'd my plan and said that the only way to do it properly was to use the insulators with PMO manifolds or have the injector notches welded up in the heads. what do you Guy think or recommend? Is there a way to make these manifolds work?
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| rfuerst911sc |
Apr 24 2011, 05:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
I'm running 911 manifolds with Weber carb's on my 1978 3.0 with just insulators and gaskets with no problems.
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| moparrob |
Apr 24 2011, 09:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
Why wouldn't it work? The insulator covers the injector notch and seals the manifold....
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| Bee Jay |
May 5 2011, 10:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
I now have 33mm PMO insulators/spacers. They do cover the fuel injection notch rather nicely and I don't see how a PMO manifold would do any different than this factory manifold. I could not resist the temptation to mock up the manifolds and carbs. I have to paint the manifolds and find the bushing that goes inside the bellcrank toward the back of the engine compartment, the bushing goes on the rod extending from the manifold. Also, the stock studs are long enough.
Bee Jay (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304657774.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304657775.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304657775.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304657776.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304657948.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304657948.2.jpg) |
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| patssle |
May 6 2011, 09:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
I thought I had read that you're suppose to take out those studs when converting to carbs. But from your pictures, it seems unnecessary, plenty of room for locking nuts.
It seems the spacers are required? Where did you get them, direct from PMO? |
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| Bee Jay |
May 6 2011, 10:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(patssle @ May 6 2011, 08:04 AM) I thought I had read that you're suppose to take out those studs when converting to carbs. But from your pictures, it seems unnecessary, plenty of room for locking nuts. It seems the spacers are required? Where did you get them, direct from PMO? I got them form Bruce, FLAT6PACnc@aol.com on Pelican, a pleasure to deal with. Yes, they are PMO. Bee Jay |
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| mepstein |
May 6 2011, 12:50 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,313 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Bee Jay @ May 6 2011, 12:58 PM) QUOTE(patssle @ May 6 2011, 08:04 AM) I thought I had read that you're suppose to take out those studs when converting to carbs. But from your pictures, it seems unnecessary, plenty of room for locking nuts. It seems the spacers are required? Where did you get them, direct from PMO? I got them form Bruce, FLAT6PACnc@aol.com on Pelican, a pleasure to deal with. Yes, they are PMO. Bee Jay Small world. Bruce helps me with advice and parts. He used to live in DE. I think he said he once sold a 914-6 GT to Brumos. Anyway, he know these cars and engines. |
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| Bee Jay |
May 6 2011, 04:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
Where can I find the bushing that goes on this bellcrank. Is it a Porsche dealer item? Or can I find it in any FLAPS?
Bee Jay (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304657948.2.jpg) |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
May 6 2011, 05:19 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
At a FLAPS? You're kidding, right? If you think they don't have 914 parts, they REALLY don't have 911 stuff. I have them. Bring the bell crank with you. I'll be here tomorrow.
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| Bee Jay |
May 6 2011, 08:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ May 6 2011, 04:19 PM) At a FLAPS? You're kidding, right? If you think they don't have 914 parts, they REALLY don't have 911 stuff. I have them. Bring the bell crank with you. I'll be here tomorrow. The Cap'n Yea, I was kidding. I'll swing by tomorow after the Pismo Beach Coffee and Donuts Derelects. Do you have carb to manifold gaskets? Bee Jay |
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| Bee Jay |
May 8 2011, 01:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
The Cap'n had the bellcrank busings. This is what they look like and how everything assembles. I figure someone else may be as clueless as me.
Bee Jay (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304838966.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304838967.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304838967.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304838967.4.jpg) |
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| J P Stein |
May 8 2011, 08:44 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I agree with the PMO guy. You do not want any leakage there....ever. Tuning the Webers is tough enough without any variables built in.
....but do what you want. |
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| Bee Jay |
May 8 2011, 11:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
I'm already in the search for PMO manifolds mode, but I still can't see how they will seal the spacers any better than the factory manifolds. Actually I think he preferred the heads be welded up.
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| J P Stein |
May 8 2011, 01:49 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Bee Jay @ May 8 2011, 10:55 AM) I'm already in the search for PMO manifolds mode, but I still can't see how they will seal the spacers any better than the factory manifolds. Actually I think he preferred the heads be welded up. Plastic (or phenolic) is flexible. Bolt it to a semi-compressible surface (gasket) and the plastic will bend if not supported or squeezed. The phenolic spacer will (by itself) not compress the gasket to the same thickness as under the manifold. This could cause a gap to open up immediately or over time. A back fire could also blow out the gasket is not squeezed between two solid surfaces. Back fires & Webers while tuning are inseparable. Either way, it will cause a vacuum leak. Personally, I like my stuff as bullet proof as I can make it. I think you will find the welding & milling of the heads more expensive that PMO manifolds. |
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| Bee Jay |
May 8 2011, 02:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(J P Stein @ May 8 2011, 12:49 PM) QUOTE(Bee Jay @ May 8 2011, 10:55 AM) I'm already in the search for PMO manifolds mode, but I still can't see how they will seal the spacers any better than the factory manifolds. Actually I think he preferred the heads be welded up. Plastic (or phenolic) is flexible. Bolt it to a semi-compressible surface (gasket) and the plastic will bend if not supported or squeezed. The phenolic spacer will (by itself) not compress the gasket to the same thickness as under the manifold. This could cause a gap to open up immediately or over time. A back fire could also blow out the gasket is not squeezed between two solid surfaces. Back fires & Webers while tuning are inseparable. Either way, it will cause a vacuum leak. Personally, I like my stuff as bullet proof as I can make it. I think you will find the welding & milling of the heads more expensive that PMO manifolds. OK, I think I actually understand what you are saying now. So the PMO manifolds will do a better job of covering the entire gasket and spacer and not leave any exposed like this? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1304886970.1.jpg) Bee Jay |
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