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| J P Stein |
 May 8 2011, 04:46 PM
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Irrelevant old fart  Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None  |
Yes, got a pic that shows the area not specifically for that but you can see the shape of the PMOs. I went thru the same quandry some years back.
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| campbellcj |
May 8 2011, 07:03 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,643 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California 
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Another pic for ya. The manifold base is noticeably larger.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm3.static.flickr.com-21-1304902984.1.jpg) 914R Engine bay by cjcam, on Flickr |
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| campbellcj |
May 8 2011, 07:04 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,643 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California
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| moparrob |
May 8 2011, 08:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Bee Jay, Are those intake studs long enough? It doesn't seem like the nylon part of the Nylock nut is actually engaging the threads. Is that an illusion or do they not protrude through? |
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| Bee Jay |
May 9 2011, 04:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(moparrob @ May 8 2011, 07:14 PM)  QUOTE Bee Jay, Are those intake studs long enough? It doesn't seem like the nylon part of the Nylock nut is actually engaging the threads. Is that an illusion or do they not protrude through? The nylon part of the nuts are engaged, but I may remove the washers to get even more. What is the torque spec for the manifold to head nuts with phenolic spacers underneath? The picture was taken right after glueing the spacer gaskets in place. I'll retorque to the number I find out and I bet I get even more nylon. Bee Jay |
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| eric9144 |
May 9 2011, 05:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,774 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Awesome!
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| Cap'n Krusty |
May 9 2011, 06:20 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Glue? Nope. Don't need it. Most of it isn't fuel proof, anyway. Nylocs? Naah. Use no glue, get rid of the flat washers, use spring (AKA "wavy") washers and plain nuts. Torque them to 15 ft/lbs (or 18 if you want to).
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| Bee Jay |
May 17 2011, 11:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ May 9 2011, 05:20 PM) Glue? Nope. Don't need it. Most of it isn't fuel proof, anyway. Nylocs? Naah. Use no glue, get rid of the flat washers, use spring (AKA "wavy") washers and plain nuts. Torque them to 15 ft/lbs (or 18 if you want to). The Cap'n I got wavy washers and normal nuts from the Cap'n tonight and replaced the regular flat washers and nyloc nuts on the manifold. Torqued them to 15 ft/lbs. This is the result. Look OK? I am very glad that I'm doing this with the engine in my lap. I can't imagine doing this with the engine in the car. Bee Jay (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1305697752.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1305697753.2.jpg) |
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| patssle |
May 19 2011, 06:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
Are those the PMO manifolds? I don't see too much of the gasket exposed in your last pictures vs your #129 post.
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| Bee Jay |
May 19 2011, 07:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(patssle @ May 19 2011, 05:06 PM) Are those the PMO manifolds? I don't see too much of the gasket exposed in your last pictures vs your #129 post. No, that's the same factory manifolds. Do you know where I can find some PMO manifolds, I mean other than brand new from PMO. Bee Jay |
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| Bee Jay |
May 19 2011, 11:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
I cleaned and installed the throttle linkage. I could not find a clear set of pictures of how it was supposed to look, so here are pictures for later reference. I think the engine is ready for installation into the engine bay. Perhaps this weekend. My goal was to have the car down and running by this summer. That ain't gonna happen. Maybe I can get the engine in by June 1st.
Bee Jay (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1305869566.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1305869567.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i52.photobucket.com-3964-1305869567.3.jpg) |
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| campbellcj |
May 20 2011, 11:27 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,643 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California
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Woohoo, congrats! When is fire-up day?
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| rfuerst911sc |
May 21 2011, 03:21 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,158 Joined: 4-May 06 From: Dahlonega , Georgia Member No.: 5,980 Region Association: South East States |
Looking good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Is your oil tank an OEM or aftermarket ? My DW Design tank it was suggested to use the OC61 which fits fine. Is the thread size different between the OC54 vs. OC61 ? Wait until you fire her up for the first time !! Keep us posted.
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| kconway |
May 21 2011, 08:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California |
Is there engine tin on this motor? Trying to see how it fits with the rubber or if rubber is actually used on conversions. Looks great!
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| Bee Jay |
May 21 2011, 09:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(kconway @ May 21 2011, 07:55 AM) Is there engine tin on this motor? Trying to see how it fits with the rubber or if rubber is actually used on conversions. Looks great! I followed Wayne Dempsey's advice and installed the engine with no front or side tin (fiberglass) installed. The engine went in much easier than my last attemp with tin installed, and you need the access to the front engine mounts. I'll work on getting the engine tin in place today. Bee Jay |
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| Bee Jay |
May 21 2011, 09:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(rfuerst911sc @ May 21 2011, 02:21 AM) Looking good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Is your oil tank an OEM or aftermarket ? My DW Design tank it was suggested to use the OC61 which fits fine. Is the thread size different between the OC54 vs. OC61 ? Wait until you fire her up for the first time !! Keep us posted. Aftermarket Velious tank. I bought it off of the internet and had no clue. I assumed that all 914-6 oil filters were the same. Yes, the OC 61 would not screw on because the fitting on the filter was way too small. I think the Capt'n said the OC 54 is the "late" size. Bee Jay |
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| bcheney |
May 21 2011, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,341 Joined: 16-November 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 1,348 Region Association: South East States |
Looking good Bee Jay...I should be right behind you with my conversion...really trying to get mine running before PCA Parade this summer...Keep up the great work!
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| Bee Jay |
May 21 2011, 09:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(campbellcj @ May 20 2011, 10:27 PM) Woohoo, congrats! When is fire-up day? Not sure. I was thinking about it last night instead of sleeping. I need a few things. 1. Time 2. Money 3. Knowledge and expertise. Thanks to John Larson, Wayne Dempsey, Tom Gould, Perry Keihl, and you guys here for the patience and advice along the way. A few other things I need: 914-6 Throttle cable and trans bellcrank A straight 914-6 shifter bar A 911 muffler A 911 tach 911 Spark plug wires 911 Sparkplugs Webber air cleaner hats or air filters or even 914-6 air cleaner. Time and money. And a little good luck, my friend swore that this engine was running when he pulled it, but that was over 10 years ago, and I have no idea where he is now. No complaints though, I spent less on the engine than I did on the carbs, manifolds and linkage. I had planned on spending $6500 rebuilding it anyway, untill smarter heads convinced me to just clean it up and see if it ran. Rebuilding is no longer an option. I guess it really is cheaper to buy a running conversion, but you miss out on all of this fun. I've learned a lot too, so I'm a wiser man. Bee Jay |
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| Bee Jay |
May 21 2011, 10:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Lompoc, Ca. Member No.: 3,964 |
QUOTE(bcheney @ May 21 2011, 08:48 AM) Looking good Bee Jay...I should be right behind you with my conversion...really trying to get mine running before PCA Parade this summer...Keep up the great work! Thanks, the Rennsport is on the West Coast this year in October. It would be nice to drive a Porsche 914-6 up to it. We shall see. I'm surprised at how getting the engine mounted in the car is a motivating milestone. Bee Jay |
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