Bee Jay's 914-six Conversion, The car just burned down! Options

[patssle]

Very nice!

I see you put the 911 oil temp/pressure gauge where the fuel gauge use to go, did it fit right in or did it require any modification to the dash plate?

[Bee Jay]

Very nice!

I see you put the 911 oil temp/pressure gauge where the fuel gauge use to go, did it fit right in or did it require any modification to the dash plate?

Sliped right in. I didn't use factory wiring, so now I have to go figure our where the factory wires are.
Bee Jay

[Bee Jay]

Awesome to hear! Get that thing done for Rennsport Reunion! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) I believe I read earlier in your thread that you are going?

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Thanks Qarl. Not going anywhere if I don't resolve the oil leaks.
Bee Jay

[Cap'n Krusty]

10w30? Your engine takes 20w50, not 10w30. It's way too thin, and will cause a substantial oil pressure drop at higher ambient temperatures.

I don't see "GL5" printed anywhere on that Castrol bottle. Maybe it's on the other side? Picture, please? As for the Porsche tranny being more picky that the one in your Ferrari, I doubt it. Italian carmakers are also very specific in the lubricants they use. Yours takes GL5, as well. IIRC, Ferraris of the vintage yours is use Porsche style synchros.

The Cap'n

[Bee Jay]

10w30? Your engine takes 20w50, not 10w30. It's way too thin, and will cause a substantial oil pressure drop at higher ambient temperatures.

I don't see "GL5" printed anywhere on that Castrol bottle. Maybe it's on the other side? Picture, please? As for the Porsche tranny being more picky that the one in your Ferrari, I doubt it. Italian carmakers are also very specific in the lubricants they use. Yours takes GL5, as well. IIRC, Ferraris of the vintage yours is use Porsche style synchros.

The Cap'n

Got it. 20w50. I'll change the oil as soon as I get the carbs synched, the timing set, and the major oil leak solved. I always listen to the Cap'n.
The Castorl bottle said GL5 on the back. I'll take a picture or bring the empty bottle by. That is why I bought the Castrol synthetic, it's recommended in the Ferrari.
How are you Cap'n Krusty? Have a nice day. See you soon.
Bee Jay

[campbellcj]

BeeJay - re. the oil - also note that 8 quarts might be too little depending on your auxiliary oil cooler (if any) and lines. Check carefully before you run the engine. My car takes around 11-12 qts...

[Bee Jay]

I started the car up again last night and attempted to tune up a little. The timing was way off at 60+ degrees. It is amazing how the engines will run with so much timing. I had to remove the dizzy and rotate it one tooth to get close. I now have it at 5 degrees initial, and it comes up to about 20 degrees total when I rev it. I will have to get a recurved dizzy, but man are those things expensive. I also tried to balance the carbs a little. I will need to work at this some more. But it seems that some cylinders are not contributing as much as others. Each header pipe gets hot, so they are all firing and combusting I hope. The engine runs at actually too high idle with the passenger side carbs butterfly shut. Like I said, I'll need to work on the carbs a little.
I only got one response from my wtb thread on Pelican Parts for air cleaners. I might have to break down and buy new air cleaners. It's only money and hey, it is a Porsche. Like the Cap'n said, "stop your whining".
The fan belt is way too loose now and making bad noises and there is a serious oil leak up front, so I think the engine will have to come out to adress both. I was hoping I would not have to do that, but hey, no whining. I'm still looking for a tach, so I'm hoping to find out what I'm actually idling at. I also need to chase down the oil temp wire in my gauges and in the engine compartment. I'll take the car off of the lift and put it away for now. At least I won't have to push it into the garage, I can drive it in. Don't worry Gill, I wont drive it down the block with no registration, no tachometer, no air cleaner, a bad oil leak, and no oil temp...........ok, maybe down the block and back.
Bee Jay

[patssle]

I got quoted for $600 for a rebuild and recurve on my '81 dizzy from Barry in Detroit. Pricey, but it'll last forever.

What was the response for your air-cleaners?

[rfuerst911sc]

Bee Jay I have some billet aluminum K&N air filter tops/bases with filters if you're interested. PM me for details if interested.

[moparrob]

Jerry Woods just did a complete rebuild and recurve of my '79 SC distributor for $475. Same setup as yours, I believe. Weber 40's and stock cam.

Nice guy to deal with also.

[campbellcj]

You can also get the K&N water shield or flat top air filters from PMO in the $125-150 ballpark as I recall. Richard is very helpful for carb issues or parts in general.

The fan belt can be done with the engine in, BTDT earlier this year, but it's no fun.

[Bee Jay]

Bee Jay I have some billet aluminum K&N air filter tops/bases with filters if you're interested. PM me for details if interested.

Heck yes I'm interested. PM sent. Or you can email me at:
beejay.jones@gmail.com
Thanks
Bee Jay

[patssle]

You can also get the K&N water shield or flat top air filters from PMO in the $125-150 ballpark as I recall.

They are running $200 now.

Bee Jay I have some billet aluminum K&N air filter tops/bases with filters if you're interested. PM me for details if interested.

If for some reason he doesn't buy, I might be interested too. Right now I have 2 aluminum tops and just 1 bottom and no filters. I need 1 more bottom.

[Bee Jay]

You can also get the K&N water shield or flat top air filters from PMO in the $125-150 ballpark as I recall.

They are running $200 now.

Bee Jay I have some billet aluminum K&N air filter tops/bases with filters if you're interested. PM me for details if interested.

If for some reason he doesn't buy, I might be interested too. Right now I have 2 aluminum tops and just 1 bottom and no filters. I need 1 more bottom.

$200 for a new set of K&N watershield air cleaners? Where? PMO? Maybe that is the way for me to go. Used filter sets are running $150.
Bee Jay

[campbellcj]

Yup, $200 per the web site. I stand corrected (hey, I bought mine quite a few years ago.)

http://www.pmocarb.com/parts.htm

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[patssle]

You can also get the K&N water shield or flat top air filters from PMO in the $125-150 ballpark as I recall.

They are running $200 now.

Bee Jay I have some billet aluminum K&N air filter tops/bases with filters if you're interested. PM me for details if interested.

If for some reason he doesn't buy, I might be interested too. Right now I have 2 aluminum tops and just 1 bottom and no filters. I need 1 more bottom.

$200 for a new set of K&N watershield air cleaners? Where? PMO? Maybe that is the way for me to go. Used filter sets are running $150.
Bee Jay

As he linked, PMO. You can buy them at youroil.net.

Where are you finding used for $150? I haven't really found anything new/used for Weber 3 bbl filters aside from Pelican and PMO.

[Bee Jay]

I found this on the Summit web site and thought I had made a major find.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KNN-56-1770-2/
http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=56-1770-2
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Then I called Summit to order, but first I'd like to make sure that the Engine Kit for $135 included a pair or set of air cleaners. The tech at Summit said "good question". He's sure it includes a pair but calls K&N to confirm. After being on hold for a long time he comes back and says that K&N told him that the price is each and I would need 2 for my 911. So that would be $270 for the pair. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) The PMO watershield is looking better and better at $200
Bee Jay

[campbellcj]

BeeJay, I got those type of flat tops from PMO. They aren't on the web site as I recall, but available by request. Interesting Richard told me the flat tops are quieter than the watershields. At least I think that's what he said - I didn't notice on my LOUD car. They are lighter too.

[Bee Jay]

BeeJay, I got those type of flat tops from PMO. They aren't on the web site as I recall, but available by request. Interesting Richard told me the flat tops are quieter than the watershields. At least I think that's what he said - I didn't notice on my LOUD car. They are lighter too.

My 914-4 got left out one night and it rained. When I went to crank it the engine hydro locked. I had to pull the plugs and crank it till the water was cleared before I could start it. I think for that reason alone I should go with watershields. Here is a picture I promised the Cap'n. The back side of my trans oil bottle.
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[patssle]

BeeJay, I got those type of flat tops from PMO. They aren't on the web site as I recall, but available by request. Interesting Richard told me the flat tops are quieter than the watershields. At least I think that's what he said - I didn't notice on my LOUD car. They are lighter too.

Interesting, I'll have to get in contact with him. Here's the mess I have. 1 of each style (A and C) and old K&N filters that fit neither. Grrr. Trying to figure out if new K&N filters will fit them or not.