Andyrews Progress Thread, 1/16/22 A Trip to The Red Barn - Lets fab a Firewall! Options

[ValcoOscar]

Nice to see ingenuity....keep it up, see ya at WCR

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Oscar

[tygaboy]

Andrew - that's really coming along! Nice work...

[Andyrew]

Alina turned 2 Saturday (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

She likes cars, loves to buckle up when she sits in a seat, Here she is with my dad and sitting in the 944.


She also likes playing in the dirt. Not pictured is a couple hours later her playing with a tea set and pouring me "tea".

[oakdalecurtis]

Good thing she looks like Jeruka!
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[Andyrew]

With the goal of my dad bringing his 914 to WCR and me bringing my 914 to WCR that means we both have to be running. He's much closer to me and I have a lot of work to do in general..

We spent Sunday morning trying to figure out a way to fix my notchy steering. We tried at first to make my double heim joint system to work better but couldnt get it any better than before.


One of the reasons for not going with the 914 steering column is the audi signal stalks and all the related electrical components. My dad having the blue parts car he brought down a bunch of stuff for us to consider using instead. This included the 914 steering column.

After a bunch of work we decided to give the 914 column a try, cut off the outer housing on the aluminum piece and with a bit of grinding we should be able to put the Audi column electrical bits on the 914 piece.


At this point since I moved the 914 mount AND my dash is pretty much formed up I'll mock it in place and weld a column mount to the body We tested the system with the wheels up moving the wheel checking for binding and did not find any. So with a bit more fabrication I'll be able to make this work.

This also means no more bulky Audi steering wheel. More details on that when parts come in.

Hopefully I can accomplish this and not have to modify my dash too much.

June is going to be tough to get the car ready... My list needs to be updated....

[Andyrew]

A visual on the column modifications.

[Andyrew]

Quite a bit removed. All non structural just for mounting the key switch. Which will remain Audi and be relocated to the dash.

[Andyrew]

Trying to make steady progress.

But big hurdle out of the way that will affect the cars drivability by a long shot. Steering column swapped back to a 914. Relocated slightly but it's very smooth now.

This meant I needed a new steering wheel and adapter. Quite happy with this one so far.


If you look back about 3 years I also tried my hand at making a shifter but couldn't find anyone to turn the wood. Well I still had the 3" block of glued wood but no lathe. I was sitting on the couch early last week and looking at knobs to buy to compliment the steering wheel and I said why don't I give finishing mine up a try? Well I have a new drill press now so I after cutting and grinding it to a really rough shape I put it on the drill, cranked up the speed and got my grinders out and started roughing up the shape with it spinnung. It started to really work with a cut off wheel then I cleaned it up with a flap wheel and finally some sandpaper by hand. Damn proud of it. I'll finish it with Danish oil.


All this interior work had been leaving me with deciding what to do with my seats. Another member found some eBay seats that worked for him and I figured I would try something similar. I bought them planning to use then for WCR and this year but when I got all the leather work done I would probably have them redone. I'm surprised by the quality of them... Foam is rock hard, their is a poorly designed sprung in the upper back that pops in and out when you sit down but for $350 delivered for the pair I was really happy with them. They are very tight on the butt but a bottle Jack should fix that like my current seats.

I'm confident they will require fab work to the car to replace my old ones. But that's easy enough. For now they will be a play place for Alina. Got to get more important things done first.




Meaning I need to drop the trans and replace it. Working late means no power tools so what should be a 2 hr job is closer to 5. More on this next week.


I have some more resin drying on the dash upper portion. Hopefully I can use this.... The steering column debacle meant some things are moving around and getting in the way more than anticipated. I'll redo it if needed. No pics. Just scratchy fiberglass... I needed the top done so it will actually hold shape so I can start really mocking things up.

[Mike Bellis]

She's getting so big!

Nice seats and forward progress!

[tygaboy]

Andrew - It's good to know I'm not alone in, what often seems like the "He's making it up as he goes along!" world.
I'd be curious to know how much of your design (dash/climate control, for example) do you actually have worked out before you jump in?

Are you "sure" it'll work? "Pretty sure"? Or, as seems to happen to me, are you in "I'll figure out a way to make it work!" mode?

Regardless, having met you and your dad, I believe I've found additional proof that the "defective car gene" (as my wife calls it), truly exists and doesn't skip generations! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Keep up the tremendous work and let's plan another work day. I look forward to bouncing some build ideas off you.

[Andyrew]

Andrew - It's good to know I'm not alone in, what often seems like the "He's making it up as he goes along!" world.
I'd be curious to know how much of your design (dash/climate control, for example) do you actually have worked out before you jump in?

Are you "sure" it'll work? "Pretty sure"? Or, as seems to happen to me, are you in "I'll figure out a way to make it work!" mode?

Generally I have an idea, I work it out on paper with a drawing and maybe measurements. I template it out somehow and then start fab. Most of the time it's "I'll force this to work" as I hate multiple attempts at the same project. Lots of times this forces me to rebuild other aspects.

Regardless, having met you and your dad, I believe I've found additional proof that the "defective car gene" (as my wife calls it), truly exists and doesn't skip generations! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

More proof (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Keep up the tremendous work and let's plan another work day. I look forward to bouncing some build ideas off you.

Sounds great! I thought about coming up before WCR but time is slipping by....

[Andyrew]

Lot of work recently for not a lot of progress.


Replaced the trans with the spare I bought.Clutch, flywheel and pressure plate look good. This involved removing the stub axles and swapping them over. Only to find out I didn't grind the hole large enough for the stub axles in the LSD.

So I test fit the system and I was only off a strong 1/8.

Grinding of the stub axles it was! This portion of the axle is only for a guide. I left a hair on there. Should work well. Flanges are back in normal position.

I had to swap shifts cables as I bent the end of one slightly and it wouldn't operate nicely. Fixed it on the bench when I was done swapping it. Adjusted the shift linkage mounts a bit and gave them s coat of silver (couldn't find black...)

I test everything by hand and notice the clutch is weak. Seems like some air got in the system somehow. Go to bleed and the reservor cap is missing. Ordered a new one.


I test the dash in the car and it seems like it grew some more. The foam stuff just isn't working so I'm scratching this dash. The steering column modifications require it anyways.

Sigh

I'm debating how to make the new dash. I think I'm going to template it out in steel rod, then fiberglass cloth over it or just use steel. It's a simple design but if I don't fiberglass immediately after trimming the foam it will expand and ruin the design. I'm thinking more and more I'll use some 22ga steel and some rod. I can work with it the easiest. It will add weight, but at this point I have very few choices that I'm comfortable with.


Also Danish oil looks decent. Going to keep adding coats and do some fine sanding..

I need this thing running by next week so I can spend some time troubleshooting it. And this dash needs to be done to a level that I at least have the guages mounted.

Too tired to load up pics. Here is the knob.

[tygaboy]

Andrew - if you haven't already, you may want to check with Tap Plastics to see if they have a foam that is more thermally/dimensionally stable. Or, consider starting with pre-made foam blocks. Google "modeling foam".
When I was doing this sort of thing for the carbon gas tank I made for my motorcycle, I used (please don't laugh) foam, bondo, Popsicle sticks and hot glue to make the plug. Whatever it took to get a stable (enough) substructure that supported being top coated so I could then get the final shape and finish I needed.
If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.

BTW, I just checked the dictionary for "custom fabrication". It's defined as "Lot of work for not a lot of progress." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

We are of a kind, your dad, you and me...

[76-914]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Michaels, Hobby Lobby, etc stock the foam blocks that florist use. I hot glue them together and file or sand to shape. This type of styrofoam will not melt if you choose to use the styrene resin vs epoxy resin. If I need to make a small plug I will use modeling clay because foam can be a PITA to work with when going small. The downside is digging out the clay afterwards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Chris914n6]

^^ Wrap the foam in foil/tape and the resin won't matter.
You can also use sheet foam (couch cushions), glue in layers, and shape it with a carving knife. Coat in house paint & you have a decent base for fiberglass.

I'd fab a simple metal frame for the gauges and cover with a dash mat. Make it pretty after WCR....

[Andyrew]

Thanks all for the advice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Got some steel strips and rods from the hardware store. I'm going to mock it up today and start going at it. I can get everything in place in steel much faster than fiberglass/foam since that's where my skills are at.

First thing will be a casing for the guage cluster for it to lie in. I have that 75% done. Pictures when I come back from lunch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Andyrew]

Guage cluster holder turned out nice. Bent it by hand, welded some tabs tacked it in place and removed the metal dash.

Wire framed the layout that I like. Added some supports and am mocking up placement of guages.



Nothing is set in stone. Thoughts on layout? The round one is AFR, small rectangle is boost, and large rectangle on the bottom is intercooler. I have another for water pump I am debating putting behind a door as I don't really need to watch it.

Kind of hard to tell from the pics but I intend to do the say beauty overhang on as on the fiberglass piece. Should help with sun shading as well as the overall look.

[Andyrew]

As part of the interior redo I decided my "WINK" mirror was a bit out of place and went for a BMW unit. 20 mins of modifications and it fits great.


Mounted 3 guages last night. Focused on placement and LCD location (all three are red).


I've determined the best course for building this dash is to have the upper top removable for wiring and easy removal and then the front panel to be welded. Not 100% on that but it's what's in my head right now.





Next step is the backing for the front. I'd like about a1-2" lip.

[tygaboy]

Fab-ulous! I really enjoy watching you come up with ways of getting the results you want. Seems like we're in that same boat of "hmmm, I think I need to try that again!"
Looks really nice - keep up the great work and we'll see you on the 18th.

[76-914]

I'm running the modified BMW mirror that lets me use the 914 visors. Same length as yours. It gave me a better field of view than the stock 914 mirror but I'm long waisted! See you at WCR.