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| ConeDodger |
  Apr 2 2011, 03:15 PM
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Apex killer!  Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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First of all, let me say this: let's not turn this into a 4 vs: 6 thread. I like them both and really don't give a damn about your position on this non-issue.
All the legal stuff out of the way, let's talk engine. First of all, this project is well advanced. The engine is already together and the 20 minute cam run in has been done. But let's talk about how we got to that point first... This motor is a 2432 Raby kit. It uses the LE200 heads and stock 2liter cylinders. The stroked crank is 84mm I believe so think of it as a super-stroker. It will run Jenvey throttle bodies and SDS injection. The EFI sensors I have chosen to use will be TPS, CHT, MAP, IAT, O2 in closed loop, and I think that is everything. Injectors are Ford Red Top. This motor requires quite a bit of engine block clearance so as they say, don't try this at home... It took me about three trips down to Original Customs to put the engine together. I used McMark's shop so I could get his free advice which he of course charges me for, and I don't get distracted by wives wondering how much all of this costs. Plus Mark has an engine break-in stand that allows us to fire it out of the car and correct anything that might be wrong without having to pull an already installed motor. Here is a dyno sheet of one of these motors that Jake actually built. I would expect that my result might be within 10% of his. :Insert fingers crossed smiley here: Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| TJB/914 |
Oct 5 2016, 11:31 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,417 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 3 2016, 10:03 PM)  QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Oct 3 2016, 09:37 PM) 'Cause you an outlaw! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Because you want to join the Eric Kool Kid Club. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Tom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| TJB/914 |
Oct 5 2016, 11:45 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,417 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 5 2016, 10:27 AM) The old location of Original Customs is now a race car prep shop. The owner is a pretty cool guy. Some of you might know that I own the smog shop 100 yards away. I was talking to him about this yesterday and he said if I bring him the parts he can model them in solid works and we can send the drawings out to online shops for production. I'll bring the part and drawing to him on Monday and have more information then... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hey Rob, If interested in making it perfect, I'll take mine off and send it to you for duplication?? Of course you will return mine when finished. Send me a PM with an address if interested. Tom |
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| TJB/914 |
Oct 5 2016, 11:51 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,417 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 5 2016, 01:45 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 5 2016, 10:27 AM) The old location of Original Customs is now a race car prep shop. The owner is a pretty cool guy. Some of you might know that I own the smog shop 100 yards away. I was talking to him about this yesterday and he said if I bring him the parts he can model them in solid works and we can send the drawings out to online shops for production. I'll bring the part and drawing to him on Monday and have more information then... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hey Rob, If interested in making it perfect, I'll take mine off and send it to you for duplication?? Of course you will return mine when finished. Send me a PM with an address if interested. Tom Looks like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Tom Attached thumbnail(s)  Attached image(s) 
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| raynekat |
Oct 5 2016, 12:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,169 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Oct 5 2016, 08:00 AM) Have you seen a rear fog light mounted just below the number on the valance ? The first time I seen a rear red fog it was mounted there Typically done on 911 installs.....but not on 914's. |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 5 2016, 02:18 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 5 2016, 01:45 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 5 2016, 10:27 AM) The old location of Original Customs is now a race car prep shop. The owner is a pretty cool guy. Some of you might know that I own the smog shop 100 yards away. I was talking to him about this yesterday and he said if I bring him the parts he can model them in solid works and we can send the drawings out to online shops for production. I'll bring the part and drawing to him on Monday and have more information then... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hey Rob, If interested in making it perfect, I'll take mine off and send it to you for duplication?? Of course you will return mine when finished. Send me a PM with an address if interested. Tom PM on the way TBlizz! |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 5 2016, 06:27 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Ok, so this is coming together nicely. TBlizz is sending me his original inner mount. I have an original outer mount which TBlizz also sent me (attached to the rear fog I'm using). I'll take them to my neighbor at the old Original Custom site for modeling in solid works. Then we can have a dozen or so of each made and make them available! Cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Then we can all be Stylin' like TBlizz and Erc! Garvey lights all around! Attached image(s) 
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| TJB/914 |
Oct 5 2016, 06:40 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,417 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 5 2016, 08:27 PM) Ok, so this is coming together nicely. TBlizz is sending me his original inner mount. I have an original outer mount which TBlizz also sent me (attached to the rear fog I'm using). I'll take them to my neighbor at the old Original Custom site for modeling in solid works. Then we can have a dozen or so of each made and make them available! Cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Then we can all be Stylin' like TBlizz and Erc! Garvey lights all around! Rob, I think Jeff Bowlsby really wants one on his LE and a Red Fog Lamp would really look good on Pete Stout's Red 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Just pushing the envelope of Kool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Tom in the club. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 5 2016, 06:59 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 5 2016, 08:40 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 5 2016, 08:27 PM) Ok, so this is coming together nicely. TBlizz is sending me his original inner mount. I have an original outer mount which TBlizz also sent me (attached to the rear fog I'm using). I'll take them to my neighbor at the old Original Custom site for modeling in solid works. Then we can have a dozen or so of each made and make them available! Cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Then we can all be Stylin' like TBlizz and Erc! Garvey lights all around! Rob, I think Jeff Bowlsby really wants one on his LE and a Red Fog Lamp would really look good on Pete Stout's Red 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Just pushing the envelope of Kool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Tom in the club. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| jim_hoyland |
Oct 5 2016, 08:18 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,808 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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Nice going; everything is coming together. Do we have a sign-up sheet ? Or ?
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| Mike Bellis |
Oct 5 2016, 08:51 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,347 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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This is getting to be like the SS Chevelle. There are more SS cars on the road today than GM ever built...
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| Dave_Darling |
Oct 5 2016, 09:18 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,196 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 5 2016, 05:40 PM) I think Jeff Bowlsby really wants one on his LE and a Red Fog Lamp would really look good on Pete Stout's Red 914. OK, who has the drill bit, who has the extra wires, and who can distract Pete and Jeff? --DD |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 6 2016, 09:12 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Oct 5 2016, 11:18 PM) QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 5 2016, 05:40 PM) I think Jeff Bowlsby really wants one on his LE and a Red Fog Lamp would really look good on Pete Stout's Red 914. OK, who has the drill bit, who has the extra wires, and who can distract Pete and Jeff? --DD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) OMG! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) that's a good reason for a Pancake House Meet! |
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| Mike Bellis |
Oct 6 2016, 06:59 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,347 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 6 2016, 08:12 AM) QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Oct 5 2016, 11:18 PM) QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 5 2016, 05:40 PM) I think Jeff Bowlsby really wants one on his LE and a Red Fog Lamp would really look good on Pete Stout's Red 914. OK, who has the drill bit, who has the extra wires, and who can distract Pete and Jeff? --DD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) OMG! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) that's a good reason for a Pancake House Meet! Jeff only lives a couple mile away. I can go there and drill holes in all his cars. This might looks good on his 928 too... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 6 2016, 07:01 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Oct 6 2016, 08:59 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 6 2016, 08:12 AM) QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Oct 5 2016, 11:18 PM) QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 5 2016, 05:40 PM) I think Jeff Bowlsby really wants one on his LE and a Red Fog Lamp would really look good on Pete Stout's Red 914. OK, who has the drill bit, who has the extra wires, and who can distract Pete and Jeff? --DD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) OMG! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) that's a good reason for a Pancake House Meet! Jeff only lives a couple mile away. I can go there and drill holes in all his cars. This might looks good on his 928 too... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Since I'm having the extra mounts made, I'm thinking I'll have one put on my Tundra! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 8 2016, 04:22 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Got a package from Tom today. A lot quicker than we expected. He thought it would arrive by Tuesday which would have held things up considerably since I return for my 1 week at work on Monday...
I will be meeting with the race car shop guy who occupies the old Original Customs site in our industrial complex on Monday if he is there. Then we can get some of these reproduced... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Attached image(s)  
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| raynekat |
Oct 8 2016, 04:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,169 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Put me down on your list who would like one of each bracket, thanks.
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| eric914 |
Oct 8 2016, 08:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 381 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Waynesville OH Member No.: 1,613 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Put me down too for a set if you are starting a list.
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 8 2016, 09:00 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,095 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Guys, I am not starting a list. Once I get these done, I'm sending them to PMB and you will be able to get them from Eric... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| eric914 |
Oct 8 2016, 09:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 381 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Waynesville OH Member No.: 1,613 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Roger:)
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| edrotol |
Oct 8 2016, 10:48 PM
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edrotol Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 23-April 06 From: Woburn, MA Member No.: 5,910 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 3 2016, 06:21 PM) Ok, I'm back on the Euro Rear Fog Light which we have affectionately dubbed the "Garvey Light" after Pat Garvey who objects vehemently to anything that didn't come on the car as new. Pat has the original air in his tires I'm told! We love you Pat! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) So, the mounts are the main problem when you decide to add the Factory Rear Fog Light. If you search the subject you'll find discussion of the outer being available but the inner NLA. Well, the discussion is from 2007-8 so none are available from Porsche anymore. The lights themselves are available through Just Kampers in the UK and the wiring harness can be had by contacting Jeff Bowlsby. Here are Tom Blizznik's project drawings. Tom supplied me with the light and the outer mount. I am going to have a half dozen of the outer mounts reproduced and a half dozen + 1 (for me) of the inner mounts produced. The extras will be available through PMB Performance once they are done. The question is, is a half dozen of each mount going to be enough? How much interest is there in this I can volunteer a never installed ORIGINAL FACTORY REAR FOGLIGHT including the 2 metal pieces (no bolts), the rear fog light (with bulb), and a factory issued wiring harness. I have yet to determine once and for all what switch is used and where is the switch located. Another subject to ponder. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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