 One messed up build thread. Nothing's gonna be right, I've been neglecting one of my cars. I'm a bad man. |
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| rohar |
 Sep 5 2011, 10:31 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(NORD @ Sep 5 2011, 08:08 AM)  Been following this build. Keep going and when you get it done We will have a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jsharp.gif) BBQ and a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Drive Speaking of... I just realized the smoker stays with this house. Great, now I'm gonna have to build a new smoker shortly. As if I didn't have enough things keeping me from the car. On the up side, the wife agreed to letting me turn the driveway into a go cart track: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/p.rdcpix.com-9685-1315240298.1.jpg) |
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| yellowporky |
Sep 6 2011, 09:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 18-October 09 From: Martinez, Ca. Member No.: 10,948 Region Association: Northern California |
Rohar,
Thanks for the funny comments on my thread. If you are removing all of the moving parts from the tunnel like the shift rod you can do like what we are doing and fill it with spray foam. This should take care of any heat insulation concerns and keep anything from vibrating. The vems system that we are using on our car is pretty nice and has all of the inputs that the Audi motor needs. The price is very good also. Thanks, Chris |
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| rohar |
Sep 23 2011, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
3 30' trailers filled with stuff in the last 48 hours. My current neighbors seem to be a bit upset, 4 of them have come over wondering when all the trailers are gonna be gone. Since I'm not living with them anymore, they didn't get the answer they were looking for. I tried to be polite, but I'm sure I was pretty short. We take ownership on Tuesday, I'm not sure I'm gonna make it.
A positive note, when I went to pick up one off the trailors I'm borrowing from a friend, there was a big assed Enco mill mothballed in his shop. I asked him about it and he said it was his grandfather's and he just listed it on craigslist. Couldn't help myself, $1000 delivered. Pix to follow. Oh, and I hate moving. |
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| rohar |
Oct 7 2011, 04:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
Finally in the new home. The shop is bigger than I remembered. I haven't measured it but it looks to be 50x50 by eye. Absolutely no storage in the shop so I'm hunting craigslist for cabinets. Gonna be another 2 weeks before everything is sorted out and I can get back to work.
Oh, and NORD, I'm gonna have to convince the PNW contingent to wander out here. The property is friggin awesome for entertaining/cruising. The 10 miles from the house to the top of the mountain ROCKS! Plenty of room for guests too. Maybe a teener day at FATT out at SCR next year? |
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| rohar |
Oct 20 2011, 12:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
So I finally made it back to Seattle to pick up hardware I paid for a bit ago:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i910.photobucket.com-9685-1319136728.1.jpg) Well hello my new little friend, bad things are about to happen to you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I guess this is one way to do twin spark without CDI: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i910.photobucket.com-9685-1319136728.2.jpg) |
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| rohar |
Nov 2 2011, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
So I've managed to get enough of the shop sorted that I can continue the build in earnest. Time to tackle the cooling tubes. I'm tearing out the center void and shoving pipes right down the middle. But here lies more decisions. I'll be covering the tubes with a refractory so I don't have to worry about heat, but material selection may be important. The V8 is an aluminum block, the radiator's aluminum as well. I can get steel tubing for about $24 total, aluminum is gonna run me close to $140 but there'd be virtually no likelihood of electrolysis.
Thoughts? |
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| rohar |
Nov 11 2011, 08:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
Ok, so I tabled the tubing for now but I have made progress. REALLY!
The V8 brings it's own challenges, but they're not nearly as tough as the /6. Turns out Audi didn't make many cars with a 3.6 v8 and a manual, so the flywheel is a bit of an issue. Worse, the newer v8s use a completely different flywheel. Only 2 engines used that bolt pattern, this one and the VR6 from VW. The problem w/ the VW unit is the starter gear is on the wrong side as it runs a tranny side starter. No worries though, I managed to secure a solid VR6 flywheel for $50 and spent the afternoon with a 70 year old machinist. We worked things out. Ok, he made fun of me a lot, that's what happens when you deal with seasoned machinists. But we've got a plan and he'll tackle it shortly. Meanwhile I've started working the rest of the engine/MSIII integration. Wires and seasoned machinists. I'm in hotrod hell. |
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| aircooledtechguy |
Nov 12 2011, 12:33 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You ARE a glutton for punishment aren't you?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
Looking good. I always enjoy the progress. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| rohar |
Nov 12 2011, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
Glutton for punishment? Yeah, pretty much.
So I'm wiring up the ignition today. Keeping the dizzys w/ the MSIII. Saves a LOT of time and money. I've never worked on a 3.6 before I bought this one. On paper, it looked great. 2 16vs siamesed. It didn't really hit me how much that was true until I started working over the ignition. 2 heads? Fine, 2 distributors! Brilliant! Jens in the design department musta had a liquid lunch that day. Driving 2 coils from 1 signal without frying anything is interesting. On the up side, I get to keep the stock tach, it's a V8 but the signal comes form an I4 dizzy. |
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| NORD |
Nov 12 2011, 02:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,505 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Lynden Washington Member No.: 2,756 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Did I hear that the Porsche Parade will be in Salt Lake City UH. for next year? Is so You just might see some PNW 914s stopping by. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| rohar |
Nov 12 2011, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
WOOT! I'll plan on being an "official" pit stop. There's always plenty of grub, beer, and now room at Rob's house!
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| rohar |
Dec 15 2011, 05:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
So with the acquisition of the 944, I've come to the conclusion the teener will be v6 powered. I'm pretty comfortable holding the V8 over until I'm done with the teener then doing a swap on the '44.
In the vein of getting something productive done today, I started tearing down the intake manifold. The flanges are symetrical, so the throttle can face forward or backward. Only problem is that the long runners (it's kinda like varioram on this one) hit a cooling pipe when flipped backwards. So I'm cutting the long runners off as I'm not gonna need the low end torque anyway. Now I've not worked with this engine a bunch, so when I opened the intake I was a bit surprised: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i910.photobucket.com-9685-1323992765.1.jpg) The upper half opens the short runners by a series of 40mm butterflies. I've got half a mind to keep the butterflies and use them as individual throttles. Sure, there'll be some external plumbing to make it idle, but it looks promising. |
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| okieflyr |
Dec 15 2011, 07:59 PM
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9fauxteen Group: Members Posts: 816 Joined: 9-January 05 From: Phila PA Member No.: 3,426 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(rohar @ Nov 2 2011, 03:28 PM) So I've managed to get enough of the shop sorted that I can continue the build in earnest. Time to tackle the cooling tubes. I'm tearing out the center void and shoving pipes right down the middle. But here lies more decisions. I'll be covering the tubes with a refractory so I don't have to worry about heat, but material selection may be important. The V8 is an aluminum block, the radiator's aluminum as well. I can get steel tubing for about $24 total, aluminum is gonna run me close to $140 but there'd be virtually no likelihood of electrolysis. Thoughts? This is what I used from Mcmaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/#general-purpose-hose/=fdp4jz High-Temperature Coolant Hose Use with ethylene glycol and water Temperature Range: -65° to +350° F Color: Blue Hose: Silicone rubber Cover: Silicone rubber Reinforcement: Silicone-coated polyester It's probably about the same cost range as the aluminum tubing. The thing I like about using hose is that I have minimum connections and reduces electrolysis. |
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| rohar |
Dec 15 2011, 08:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
I'm back to the iron block v6 so steel tubes are back in play. Next nightmare is figuring out how to mount the intake manifold backwards. I spent about a half hour on the phone with a good friend. After explaining that the manifold interfered with the cooling lines on top of the block so I'll just cut off the useless long runners from the intake, he suggested I just reroute the cooling pipes. Farking brilliant! Why the hell didn't I think of that?
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| rohar |
Dec 23 2011, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
I've got the day off and the shop is warm, but strangely the couch is soooo seductive. Someone give me the strength to get off my ass and pull that engine/tranny out from under the car again.
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| aharder |
Dec 23 2011, 05:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,736 Joined: 6-September 11 From: Dallas Texas Member No.: 13,524 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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Get Up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) Get up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) get up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
Now go work on that car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| rohar |
Dec 23 2011, 06:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
Damned thing is out. Got lazy and found a new way to raise the car. Pics shortly.
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| rohar |
Dec 23 2011, 07:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
Hey, you pull a v6 from a 914 your way, I'll pull it my way:
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| aircooledtechguy |
Dec 24 2011, 10:01 AM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(rohar @ Dec 23 2011, 05:09 PM) Hey, you pull a v6 from a 914 your way, I'll pull it my way: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i910.photobucket.com-9685-1324688957.1.jpg) Red-neck two post lift. . . All you need now is a big-@$$ pair of vice-grips at the base of the hyd cylinder as a "safety lock" in case of hyd failure. . . GIT-R-DONE!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| rohar |
Dec 24 2011, 10:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(aircooledtechguy @ Dec 24 2011, 08:01 AM) Red-neck two post lift. . . All you need now is a big-@$$ pair of vice-grips at the base of the hyd cylinder as a "safety lock" in case of hyd failure. . . GIT-R-DONE!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) There was no way in hell I was getting under there. Got the engine/tranny down on a pair of dollies. Used a floor jack to get the chassis up about 2 inches and bolted the chain to the motor mounts. Jacked the car up in like 1 minute, went to the back of the car and pulled on the tranny. Slid right out. Then I put the chassis back on the floor really fast (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You don't want to know my procedure for swapping engines on MK1 VWs. Maybe I'll make more progress today. |
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