 Ignition switch, Is NOS available? |
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| Porschef |
 May 18 2011, 03:25 PM
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How you doin'  Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States 
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If not, can anyone recommend a decent replacement? Mine is just about shot, ok, its shot, the car would not start today for the first time. It's been getting progressively worse.
Thanks Joe |
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| Tom_T |
May 18 2011, 03:39 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(porscheless @ May 18 2011, 02:25 PM)  If not, can anyone recommend a decent replacement? Mine is just about shot, ok, its shot, the car would not start today for the first time. It's been getting progressively worse. Thanks Joe You can still get the OE electrical inserts from most of the usual sources - not too pricey IIRC either, & just replace that part. Just make sure that they're not selling you the crappy aftermarket ones in disguise. |
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| Andyrew |
May 18 2011, 03:45 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Like from who? Pelican sold me a crappy aftermarket one.
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| Cap'n Krusty |
May 18 2011, 03:45 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
"Crappy aftermarket ones"? The dealers sell the same thing, only for a lot more money.
The Cap'n |
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| Andyrew |
May 18 2011, 03:53 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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The electrical connections internally broke after 2 start ups. This was 6 months after I bought it.. It was a non porsche part and was most certainly from China.
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| McMark |
May 18 2011, 04:04 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
The early ones (72-74) from Pelican/SSF are made by MEISTERSATZ, P/N 111 905 865 K.
The late ones (75-75) are listed as ELECTRIX - POR, P/N 111 905 865 L. I'm not sure if anyone else has access to different suppliers and can divulge if other MFGs are listed. |
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| ellisor3 |
May 18 2011, 04:32 PM
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HPWhore Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fleming Island, Florida Member No.: 9,683 Region Association: South East States  |
That is also a VW part. May be cheaper to purchase from a VW site:
Ignition switch (electrical part) 311.905.865A 1970-late 1971VW 1968-70 Beetle Ignition switch (electrical part) 111.905.865F 1970-late 1971 VW 1971 Beetle Ignition switch (electrical part)111.905.865K Mid 1971-mid 1974 VW 1972-11/73 Beetle, Ghia, Thing, Superbeetle Ignition switch (electrical part)111.905.865L Mid 1974-76 VW mid 1974-79, VW Rabbit, Porsche 1977-81 924, Porsche 1983-mid 85 944 |
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| Drums66 |
May 18 2011, 04:37 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(ellisor3 @ May 18 2011, 03:32 PM) That is also a VW part. May be cheaper to purchase from a VW site: Ignition switch (electrical part) 311.905.865A 1970-late 1971VW 1968-70 Beetle Ignition switch (electrical part) 111.905.865F 1970-late 1971 VW 1971 Beetle Ignition switch (electrical part)111.905.865K Mid 1971-mid 1974 VW 1972-11/73 Beetle, Ghia, Thing, Superbeetle Ignition switch (electrical part)111.905.865L Mid 1974-76 VW mid 1974-79, VW Rabbit, Porsche 1977-81 924, Porsche 1983-mid 85 944 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
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| Porschef |
May 18 2011, 04:42 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(ellisor3 @ May 18 2011, 06:32 PM) That is also a VW part. May be cheaper to purchase from a VW site: Ignition switch (electrical part) 311.905.865A 1970-late 1971VW 1968-70 Beetle Ignition switch (electrical part) 111.905.865F 1970-late 1971 VW 1971 Beetle Ignition switch (electrical part)111.905.865K Mid 1971-mid 1974 VW 1972-11/73 Beetle, Ghia, Thing, Superbeetle Ignition switch (electrical part)111.905.865L Mid 1974-76 VW mid 1974-79, VW Rabbit, Porsche 1977-81 924, Porsche 1983-mid 85 944 Thanks guys, Pelican shows an OEM #111 905 865 L , just as you've got for the VW cornejos. Interesting. Joe |
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| Andyrew |
May 18 2011, 04:48 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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May be a VW part number eh?
Just called my local VW parts house and was given the following info. They have them for 15 bucks, same 1 year warrenty as everyone else. Plain white box (Same as the pelican parts one I bought). I told him I bought a Meistersatz one and he said they are owned by CC and probably manufacture in China. The only way to get something different is to get one from the Porsche or whomever actually has a NOS product (George @ AA said he had some a while ago for ~ $40, but I dont see it on the web site). |
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| ellisor3 |
May 18 2011, 05:05 PM
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HPWhore Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fleming Island, Florida Member No.: 9,683 Region Association: South East States |
Try this, one is reproduction at $6.95 one is OE at $9.95 in stock:
http://www.airheadparts.com/prods.asp copy and paste the part number |
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| Rex-n-effect |
May 18 2011, 05:18 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 4-February 11 From: Missoula, MT Member No.: 12,659 Region Association: None |
The factory part will have an MWO stamped on it. It lists for $59.50 from the dealer. If you are buying one for $9.95, it is not the "factory" switch. Sure it may be made in the same factory but it has probably been rejected by the VW engineers because of to many faults in the batch that they tested. Doesn't mean that you wont get a good one, but you guys are off base on what is factory and not. I know because i just pulled on off the shelf and looked at it.
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| Rex-n-effect |
May 18 2011, 05:31 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 4-February 11 From: Missoula, MT Member No.: 12,659 Region Association: None |
These are not NOS. There are 178 of these stocked in VW/Audi warehouses across the country and in Canada. That is in the warehouses, not what is stocked at the dealers.
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| ellisor3 |
May 18 2011, 05:41 PM
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HPWhore Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fleming Island, Florida Member No.: 9,683 Region Association: South East States |
You may very well be correct. My experience has been that the parts that are interchangeable from VW and Porsche are way more expensive if you order them as Porsche Parts. I have ordered several parts from VW dealers and they have been 30 to 50% less and the exact same part. I have an entire spreadsheet that has a list of "Porsche" parts that were also used by VW or vise versa.
Like I said, I have no knowledge of exactly where the switch came from, the site says that it is OE, take it for what it is worth. I have no affiliation to the site, simply did a search for the part. |
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| fitzm1 |
May 18 2011, 06:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 21-April 08 From: Ballston lake,ny Member No.: 8,947 Region Association: None |
You might also consider installing a hot start relay to protect that new ignition switch, also available at Pelican Parts.
QUOTE(porscheless @ May 18 2011, 01:25 PM) If not, can anyone recommend a decent replacement? Mine is just about shot, ok, its shot, the car would not start today for the first time. It's been getting progressively worse. Thanks Joe |
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| Chris Pincetich |
May 18 2011, 06:59 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ May 18 2011, 02:45 PM) Like from who? Pelican sold me a crappy aftermarket one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) |
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| orthobiz |
May 18 2011, 07:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Check out my thread on this:
Ignition Switch My 1974 has been plagued with ignition switch problems. It had a broken one when I bought it, Brad Mayeur put in an aftermarket which promptly broke. I put in another aftermarket and it became intermittent a year later. Brad was able to find a NOS for me, I posted lots of pics in that thread. I have an aftermarket as a backup. I even have a low mileage ignition assembly with a different key (I'm lazy and haven't rekeyed it yet) and an original switch in it. Maybe there are tiny clearance differences, who knows? There is talk about wrapping some paper around the switch on Pelican to thicken one area of the switch as it sits in the assembly, maybe that will make it work better. Right now my NOS is working fine. Ask me again in a year! Paul |
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