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boston914
post Jun 2 2004, 05:44 PM
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Forgive my ignorance, but I have read many posts that reference POR-15.

Can someone tell me exactly what this product is?

Where can it be purchased?

My car has rustproofing (sticky stuff) in the trunks, door jambs, underneath, etc.

Is this POR-15?

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post Jun 2 2004, 05:47 PM
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post Jun 2 2004, 05:52 PM
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Por15 is an extremely durable paint. Try www.por15.com for everything about it. They have a great FAQ section. The "sticky" stuff on your car is probably fresh rustproofing. The original rustproofing has usually dried out by now so I doubt it's original stuff. Por15 is rock hard when dry and can be tough to remove once applied. Great for preventing rust on our old cars.

You can buy it directly from the link above or you may find it locally at specialty paint stores.
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post Jun 2 2004, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(boston914 @ Jun 2 2004, 04:44 PM)
My car has rustproofing (sticky stuff) in the trunks, door jambs, underneath, etc.
Is this POR-15?

nope, that's undercoating!
no good after 30 years. it cracks and traps water and then you get RUST ...

http://www.por15.com/
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post Jun 2 2004, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 2 2004, 04:53 PM)
nope, that's undercoating!

btw. in germany, they (the car manufacturers) recommend to clean off old undercoating and re-apply new undercoating every 2 Years!

you can imagine how good 30 year old undercoating works (NOT!) ...
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post Jun 2 2004, 06:09 PM
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How do you remove undercoating? The PO of my car sprayed undercoating all over the place, though it seems more durable than the usual rubberized stuff I've seen in the past.
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post Jun 2 2004, 06:17 PM
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heat gun and a scraper. Ask Jenny!
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post Jun 2 2004, 06:22 PM
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plumbers torch works good too. just heat it enough to flake off with a putty knife, not until it's gooey or on fire.
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post Jun 2 2004, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(lapuwali @ Jun 2 2004, 05:09 PM)
How do you remove undercoating?

this is the best way to go ...

http://www.carblast.de/

they blast little particles of dry-ice onto it and it'll brake off in chunks without scratching the paint!

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post Jun 2 2004, 06:29 PM
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they blast little particles of dry-ice onto it


HAH!!

we used to use fire extinguishers to "freeze" off mis-applied thermoplastic road stripes

I use a rosebud tip on low heat and scrape away...where I can access I just let it catch on fire (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 3 2004, 06:50 AM
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Eastwood Co. sells a product designed to remove undercoating.

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post Jun 3 2004, 07:07 AM
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I have used Permatex Extend and found this product to be very helpful. What is the difference in Permatex Extend vs POR-15 other than the resulting color of the finished area?
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post Jun 3 2004, 09:34 AM
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boston914,
You can see the real stuff here. Or you can see it in person if
you want to go north (w. newbury) It is very hard and shiny,
but not supposed to see sunlight.

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post Jun 3 2004, 10:25 AM
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Boston914,
It sounds like you got the same problem as myself. Someone sprayed this sticky black crap inside both trunks, cockpit, valances, rockers and underside. I stripped the cockpit with every method above with little luck. A heat gun worked better than most especially when used with (Kiddies, DON'T try ths at home) GUNK engine degreeser. My last ditch effort to finish my floors was plane, old, ordinary, aircraft stripper (Kinda like the kind you see at the Golden Banana, but this stuff smell better)

I'll be doing the POR15 on my battery tray pretty soon. Give me a shout if you want to see it in action.
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post Jun 3 2004, 01:01 PM
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Thanks Dave.

I was at your event last year.
I do not know if you remember my car.

Anyway, I am looking forward to another get together.

Is the breakfast being scheduled for the 12th?
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post Jun 3 2004, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(lmcchesney @ Jun 3 2004, 07:07 AM)
I have used Permatex Extend and found this product to be very helpful. What is the difference in Permatex Extend vs POR-15 other than the resulting color of the finished area?
L. McC

I have wondered this same thing many times. Would love to hear the answer, but I think since we may be the only 2 guys who are NOT at or on their way to the WCC right now, we may never find out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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post Jun 3 2004, 02:25 PM
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I've used both and found Extend to be ok. What makes the POR15 'system' a better product is it's top coat. If you look at the POR15 site, the product they call Metal Ready (or something like that) is about the same as the Extend product. Left alone, it will rust again... and fast.
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post Jun 3 2004, 03:00 PM
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Thank you Dave. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

After reading the Por-15 site in more detail, it is starting to make sense to me now.
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post Jun 3 2004, 03:06 PM
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My boys and I treated rust on the 914 six years ago. During this take down/rebuild I find all places treated with Extend to be intact and no recurrent rust.
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post Jun 3 2004, 03:12 PM
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Extend is basically like OSPHO if I remember right, if it works as well as OSPHO, it's pretty damn good! I've used OSPHO on several things... it works well...
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