Jim Kelly's V8 re-conversion Options

[Dion]

Glad to see ya back at it Jim!

[sixnotfour]

I also totally blame my wife for .......

[76-914]

Where in the Hell ya been? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[jimkelly]

besides visiting the urologist every 6 months : )

mostly just working and raising two boys : )

pics of them, and the wife who always asks me the same question : )

[jimkelly]

pulled carb and distributor as to not crush them with chain on hoist. put my brand new milwaukee cordless drill torque tools to work : ) clutch arm was right up against trans nut, didn't remember this. my flywheel has 3 teeth that are chipped. and how do i loosen flywheel? it seems to be still on tight even with bolts removed. almost got to use my new harbor freight engine stand but need to get flywheel off first. guess i should have gotten a few dead blow hammers.

[Spoke]

clutch arm was right up against trans nut, didn't remember this.

Same with the trans on my 2056. Had to engage the clutch to get to the bolt.

[jimkelly]

made a LITTLE progress today. removed flywheel (by banging it all around with a 2x4) and a bunch of other stuff from my removed 307 and got it on a cradle vs engine stand. engine stand did not mate up perfectly, so expect that if you buy one.

one thing i am concerned about, know should not be an issue, is the flywheel bolt pattern on the 307 vs the 283. once i get the 283 on a cradle too, i will be able to see it directly, but it seems smaller?

thought i would use the cradles as run stands too.

can i remove the pilot bearing from the 307 crank and reusue it? how to remove?

[1970-1914]

can i remove the pilot bearing from the 307 crank and reusue it? how to remove?

Best (easiest) way to remove pilot bushings is:

Fill the bushing with white lithium grease.
Find something round, solid, metal and just smaller than the bushing ID - a piece of round bar, bolt anything not hollow.
Insert the round rod into the bushing and tap it in with a hammer

The grease will hydraulically remove the bushing.

It is pretty satisfying to do.

Pierre

[jimkelly]

thanks for the tip.

here is a youtube video showing the technique.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OScJ2QKpV_k

[76-914]

Same bolt pattern. IIRC, that Pilot Shaft bushing is just a cheap oilite bushing! Git after it Jimmy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[PatrickB]

can i remove the pilot bearing from the 307 crank and reusue it? how to remove?

Best (easiest) way to remove pilot bushings is:

Fill the bushing with white lithium grease.
Find something round, solid, metal and just smaller than the bushing ID - a piece of round bar, bolt anything not hollow.
Insert the round rod into the bushing and tap it in with a hammer

The grease will hydraulically remove the bushing.

It is pretty satisfying to do.

Pierre

And if you can't get it don't sweat it. They're cheap. Anyone that works on these engines probably has a couple in their toolbox. I haven't had a smallblock chev in years and I know there's at least one in my toolbox.

The right GM parts guy should be able to come up with a bearing that fits there instead of a bushing too. I'm not sure what they were used in anymore, but I'm thinking it was the 350 olds diesel. I used to have the factory part number but it's long gone.

[jimkelly]

pic of pilot bearing in 307. seems like it is a 2 piece set up, a bushing surrounding a roller bearing.

and some good starter info. since i plan to run the engine out of car first, i'm gonna get me a 168 tooth flexplate and starter. pic of my 283's block starter mount holes (3) for either a 153 tooth flexplate starter or a 168 tooth flexplate starter.

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/chevy-st...-all-situation/

[PatrickB]

pic of pilot bearing in 307. seems like it is a 2 piece set up, a bushing surrounding a roller bearing.

and some good starter info. since i plan to run the engine out of car first, i'm gonna get me a 168 tooth flexplate and starter. pic of my 283's block starter mount holes (3) for either a 153 tooth flexplate starter or a 168 tooth flexplate starter.

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/chevy-st...-all-situation/

You'll really like how fast it revs with the flexplate, like a bike. Don't be fooled, it will pick up rpms a lot slower with a flywheel. Been there done that a lot of years ago with a 350 that went in a firebird!

[jimkelly]

good point, thanks.

[dwillouby]

pic of pilot bearing in 307. seems like it is a 2 piece set up, a bushing surrounding a roller bearing.

and some good starter info. since i plan to run the engine out of car first, i'm gonna get me a 168 tooth flexplate and starter. pic of my 283's block starter mount holes (3) for either a 153 tooth flexplate starter or a 168 tooth flexplate starter.

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/chevy-st...-all-situation/

Don't think that bearing will come out. That's a Renagade adapter/ bearing assy. Pressed in. Tried to remove mine when changing to the Boxster trans setup.
Used the grease method & removal tool. No luck just pressed in too tight.
Might be able to rig up a puller but I learned I did not need to remove due to the new flywheel design.

[jimkelly]

might have to buy a new bushing/bearing from renegade.

got to remember this too..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMYqdU_2GnE

[jimkelly]

pic of my garage. need to get something running soon. got 2 sbc v8 engines, 4 suby ej22 engines, 2 suby 5 spd transeseses, a 914 ss trans, and two 914 motors, BUT two 914 with empty engine bays. cleaned up some today, gonna clean out garage some more tomorrow and weather is gonna start getting reasonable very soon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

[Larmo63]

pic of my garage. need to get something running soon. got 2 sbc v8 engines, 4 suby ej22 engines, 2 suby 5 spd transeseses, a 914 ss trans, and two 914 motors, BUT two 914 with empty engine bays. cleaned up some today, gonna clean out garage some more tomorrow and weather is gonna start getting reasonable very soon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Seems like to could cobble something together with all of that that would be fun to drive once in a while.

[sixnotfour]

Dart Board,,,you cant make a choice..run with it.....
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[jimkelly]

the plan is to install the sbc 283 in the 1972 to replace the perpetually leaking 307. then put a suby eng/trans in the 1975, probably with microsquirt. i have one suby engine with a bad cylinder on test stand for the purpose of getting it running with microsquirt out of car. i'm also fooling with the idea are dual dellorto's on one of the suby engines with megajolt ignitiontion, making carb manifolds now. if i can get microsquirt car thru emissions, i can then swap in carbed suby engine. one step at a time, better weather, sbc 1972 car first. thought i would be organizing my garage some more today but my son is home under-the-weather, so that is on hold for today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUo-Ts4Acw



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EzxmVG7hlU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onpUtFlOrMc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcODCwpyjEk



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQdEMqg3ZdY


alternator and relay board pics from this thread
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=340751