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> Thermostat bellows, Where to buy?
bigkensteele
post Oct 6 2011, 07:55 PM
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I am putting the finishing touches on my engine reseal project and I just noticed that my thermostat is shot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Everyone including AA and Pelican lists them as NLA. I found the link below showing how to convert a T1 to work on a T4, and they have the T1 for $107 CDN. I couldn't even find a T1 anywhere else (bughaus, busdepot, cip1).

German Supply - T1 to T4 thermo conversion

Anybody else been through this recently?

PS I would be fine with a good used one if anyone wants to PM me.
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post Oct 6 2011, 10:08 PM
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The type 1 thermostats are rated at a lower temp so they aren't as effective as the type 4 version for getting the car warmed up. I think they are 150 vs 180. I read that the version for a fuel injected 75 bug is hotter, not sure.

These are from samba classifieds

nos, not bad
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=147112

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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1180908

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=378506
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post Oct 7 2011, 06:47 AM
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I got one from Rich at High Performance House.
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post Oct 7 2011, 08:49 AM
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I got one from Automotion a long while back for 75.00 when they were
closing out on Porsche stuff......They told me George at AA,
had bought a bunch....soooo try him... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 7 2011, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(nathansnathan @ Oct 6 2011, 11:08 PM) *

The type 1 thermostats are rated at a lower temp so they aren't as effective as the type 4 version for getting the car warmed up. I think they are 150 vs 180. I read that the version for a fuel injected 75 bug is hotter, not sure.

These are from samba classifieds

nos, not bad
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=147112

some others
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1180908

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=378506

I have a late model FI mexican bug thermostat that I'm going to modify to use on my 914. It uses a bimetal spring instead of a bellows. These were available a few years back. I'll see if I can find the invoice. Ray
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post Oct 7 2011, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(reharvey @ Oct 7 2011, 08:17 AM) *

QUOTE(nathansnathan @ Oct 6 2011, 11:08 PM) *

The type 1 thermostats are rated at a lower temp so they aren't as effective as the type 4 version for getting the car warmed up. I think they are 150 vs 180. I read that the version for a fuel injected 75 bug is hotter, not sure.

These are from samba classifieds

nos, not bad
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=147112

some others
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1180908

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=378506

I have a late model FI mexican bug thermostat that I'm going to modify to use on my 914. It uses a bimetal spring instead of a bellows. These were available a few years back. I'll see if I can find the invoice. Ray

I've seen cip1.com still sells those
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post Oct 7 2011, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(914runnow @ Oct 7 2011, 06:49 AM) *

I got one from Automotion a long while back for 75.00 when they were
closing out on Porsche stuff......They told me George at AA,
had bought a bunch....soooo try him... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

They don't have them anymore, according to Leo this morning.
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post Oct 7 2011, 09:29 AM
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I got one from Rich at High Performance House.

He has a used one with my name on it for $45. Thanks!
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post Oct 7 2011, 09:32 AM
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There's a guy selling new ones on The Samba.

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post Oct 7 2011, 10:02 AM
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post Oct 7 2011, 11:21 AM
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I had a difficult time finding one until a member here came threw. I tried fixing the crack in the one I had and I bought another that was also defective. Pain in the ass part, but you need it
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post Oct 7 2011, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(Valy @ Oct 7 2011, 08:23 AM) *

QUOTE(reharvey @ Oct 7 2011, 08:17 AM) *

QUOTE(nathansnathan @ Oct 6 2011, 11:08 PM) *

The type 1 thermostats are rated at a lower temp so they aren't as effective as the type 4 version for getting the car warmed up. I think they are 150 vs 180. I read that the version for a fuel injected 75 bug is hotter, not sure.

These are from samba classifieds

nos, not bad
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=147112

some others
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1180908

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=378506

I have a late model FI mexican bug thermostat that I'm going to modify to use on my 914. It uses a bimetal spring instead of a bellows. These were available a few years back. I'll see if I can find the invoice. Ray

I've seen cip1.com still sells those


The problem with those is they fail in the closed position, where the stock will fail in the open.
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post Oct 8 2011, 04:54 AM
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so what do i have 3 (apparently) bad or 3 (apparently) good?


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post Oct 8 2011, 08:48 AM
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One on right in pic may be OK. Not perfect, but I have seen worse that still work the air vanes correctly.

The middle one is definitely shot.

John
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post Oct 8 2011, 08:49 AM
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Oops!

I mean the left one. No coffee yet!

John


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One on right in pic may be OK. Not perfect, but I have seen worse that still work the air vanes correctly.

The middle one is definitely shot.

John
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post Oct 8 2011, 02:21 PM
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If the bellow itselt isn't cracked the soldered end usually is the source of the leak. They can be repaired by fixing the leak, desoldering the small hole in the threaded piece, compressing the bellows fully, injecting 2 ml 99% isopropyl alcohol thru the small hole in the threaded piece, then resolder the small hole in the threaded piece. The alcohol has a boiling point of about 85 degrees C which will expland the bellows and of course retract the bellows when it cools.......Don't throw those old ones away.....they can be fixed in most cases......even small cracks in the bellows can be repaired.......Jerry
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