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| seanery |
 Nov 1 2004, 04:10 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey!  Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None  |
We're hashing out next year's format. One of the items under discussion is a driving event of some type.
We have 2 venues that we can rent for a Track Day (DE) and we are looking for Autocross venues. DE will probably cost each driver $150 or so Track choice will probably not raise the entrant's price much if any. One is cheaper, but the other is popular so we could fill it by allowing non 914s to run. There will be a lot of seat time available. Possibly 2 hours + for 1 day at the track. The track will sell us insurance (not for your car). This would most likely be the Friday event. Autocross will probably cost each driver $30 - $50. A lot of that will depend on the venue and insurance costs. I would expect a 914 only A/X to allow us to get 5-10 runs each, depending on when it fits into the schedule. If you are one of the people contemplating attending next year what do you think? If you aren't thinking about coming please don't respond (sorry) this thread will help shape the schedule. Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Nov 1 2004, 04:16 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,509 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None 
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Sean, the deal with the AX comes down to insurance.
The way we solved it at the WCC04 was to team up with a local PCA event and we had enough people pre-pay and pre-sign-up and with the help of some key organizers, we were able to have our own course adjacent to their regular PCA event. It was win-win. It would not have happened without the PCA. You can rent insurance at the big tracks I hear...but not for an AX. |
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| jim912928 |
Nov 1 2004, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
driving events of some sort sound like alot of fun!...so I'd be a vote for YES
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| Jeroen |
Nov 1 2004, 04:23 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
I think it's easier to fill an AX grid than a track/DE grid
Most people are afraid to take their car out on a track (track driving is more fun IMHO) Looks like it's easier (insurance wise) to rent a track though... |
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| seanery |
Nov 1 2004, 04:26 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
we know we can fill the grid easily at one of the tracks (so that's really a non-issue) for DE
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| ArtechnikA |
Nov 1 2004, 06:09 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
an extra $300 makes it an expensive event...
but i think if you have an AX where i couldn't run the 911 i'd have to reconsider attending at all... just MHO, since you asked ... |
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| seanery |
Nov 1 2004, 07:35 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Rich, you'd be more than welcome to drive the taildragger.
How was the rest of your trip? |
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| tommy914 |
Nov 1 2004, 08:04 PM
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Life is a journey, enjoy every turn. Group: Members Posts: 1,103 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Ridgeland, MS Member No.: 1,165 Region Association: None |
A track event sounds fun to me.
Put me in the "training wheels" or "old farts" group. |
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| ArtechnikA |
Nov 1 2004, 08:29 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(seanery @ Nov 1 2004, 05:35 PM) Rich, you'd be more than welcome to drive the taildragger. How was the rest of your trip? had a great trip. didn't like coming in second in two events but oh well - that's competition ;-)... disappointed that the drive didn't come off Saturday but i think you did exactly the right thing to make the hard decision to cancel that activity. sorry we missed the Sunday drive but we slept in (we were both very uch in need of some time off...) and made our own trek over to Nashville, did the tourist thing, and continued the trip down to SW Kentucky to visit Joy's parents. two days there and then we headed East, did a tour of the Maker's Mark distillery, and headed home, made it back to SEPA late Friday evening. 3,0 flat-6 (with a 914CLUB sticker...) ran just like it should, good trip, glad to be home. glad you're considering "all" Porsches driven by 914Club members for a proposed AX. if i can get everything done to the car i expect to (for Parade and beyond...) i think it'll be scads of fun in that venue... |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Nov 1 2004, 08:36 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Sean, consider the help of your local PCA. Our AX at this years MUSR would not have been possible without the support of the Cimarron region. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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| seanery |
Nov 1 2004, 08:38 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I hope my other organizers agree, but I believe if someone makes the effort to attend, then they should be able to drive...Subaru, Nissan, Porsche, Yugo-well maybe not a Yugo, but the others are ok to particpate in my humble opinion.
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| seanery |
Nov 1 2004, 08:39 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Curt,
we don't have an autocross program, we've been trying, but can't find anyone who will allow us to use their lot. I'm stunned. I've called, written letters, emails, etc...no luck. We think an autocross program will get some of our less active members off their a$$es (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Nov 1 2004, 08:52 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
We feel your pain. It's also tough here find a willing parking lot owner. We are blessed with a very active PCA group, and a supportive county fair grounds. Ax every Sunday AM in November.
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| qa1142 |
Nov 1 2004, 09:55 PM
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Whiplash Group: Members Posts: 1,514 Joined: 1-June 04 From: Lake Zurich, Illinois Member No.: 2,140 |
With the overall weekend cost at > $300 I would prefer just AutoX for lower price...
That said, I would love to get my car on a track (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
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| GaroldShaffer |
Nov 1 2004, 10:16 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,622 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None 
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Sean, you know my vote, AXing. I think AX is just more novice friendly, plus cost is another factor.
[/QUOTE]I hope my other organizers agree, but I believe if someone makes the effort to attend, then they should be able to drive...Subaru, Nissan, Porsche, Yugo-well maybe not a Yugo, but the others are ok to particpate in my humble opinion.[QUOTE] Well there is this yugo that runs in my SCCA region (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Attached image(s) 
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| GaroldShaffer |
Nov 1 2004, 10:17 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,622 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None
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| GWN7 |
Nov 1 2004, 10:52 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Sean, no luck with the manager of that bar we were in for a AX site? Wasn't it the fair grounds he was talking about?
If the FFC05 is in the same time frame as this years one, I have the time off already and might have a car with heat to drive down by then. |
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| seanery |
Nov 2 2004, 07:26 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
My friend Jim who lives in Columbus said that facility isn't acceptable as an autocross venue.
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| Doug Leggins |
Nov 2 2004, 08:12 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,358 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Nashville, Indiana Member No.: 261 Region Association: None
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Columbus SCCA
Maybe we could work something out with the Columbus SCCA group??? I contacted this group prior to this years event. Their season ended the weekend before our event so I did not pursue it any further for 2004. I went to one of their events a while back. Went to look at a 73 914 for sale - really sweet car but too much $$$. Anyway, spent a couple of hours there watching and even got a ride in the 914 for one run. It was a great time watching and riding. Driving in the event would be a total blast! One BIG concern that I had is that the cars/tires picked up a tremendous amount of pebbles and it sounded like the cars took quite a bit of abuse from the stones. Is this stone throwing thing common/expected? I would love to participate in an autocross but not just yet if my paint is going to have to withstand some rock throwing. Maybe they have access to a more friendly track? I'm willing to contact them to get more details if we want to pursue this. |
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| GaroldShaffer |
Nov 2 2004, 08:19 AM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,622 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None
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The CSCC also held a joint event with the Indy SCCA region at walesboro airport this year, is that where you seen them at Doug? As for rocks, yes it happens. Just take some blue painters tape and mask off around the back of the wheel wells. The tape won't hurt the paint.
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