 2013 Parade: Went over my Score Sheet, Some errors that I did not contest... |
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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
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| orthobiz |
 May 8 2013, 10:36 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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Dang! Now I'm really confused!!!
Products are on their way to me now, will post some pics when I start. If I burn through the paint, I ain't goin' to the show!!! Paul |
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| orthobiz |
May 8 2013, 10:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Regarding tod914's comment, the main difference between Paterek's suggestion and his: whether to use Blue Magic or Meguiar's scratch removal. I'll have both available!
Paul |
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| tod914 |
May 8 2013, 12:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Paul, I guess it all comes down to the condition of your paint. Looks real nice in the pictures. Try them both and see what works better for you. The Mequires + PS21 will be less aggressive than what John suggested. Anxious to hear what your results are. Like I said, just passing along what worked for me.
James, I agree with you on the clay bars. I think used four of them to do my car. You can only kneed them so much before your running dirt particles over the surface. I was just amazed how smooth the paint becomes, after using them. |
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| orthobiz |
May 8 2013, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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My wheels are off to Paterek Brothers, Chatham NJ to get redone!
I will still have an original 39 year old Michelin ZX tire. If Paterek doesn't want it, anyone can have it if they pay shipping. It should never ever be driven, however!!! I will know in the next couple of days. I have new Michelin XZX 165SR15 tires coming from Coker. The tires on it are over 9 years old and they don't match the spare so I am replacing them. Paul |
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| orthobiz |
May 10 2013, 04:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Tires have arrived! 5 Michelin XZX 165SR15.
I have the original 39 year old spare...for the concours weenies among us, I am thinking about safety so I was gonna mount all 5 tires and get rid of the original spare. Think I'll get points with judges even though the tires wouldn't all match? (Guess I'm obsessing a bit, eh?) Paul (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-7438-1368225444.1.jpg) Paul |
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| Pat Garvey |
May 11 2013, 06:31 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(orthobiz @ May 10 2013, 04:37 PM)  Tires have arrived! 5 Michelin XZX 165SR15. I have the original 39 year old spare...for the concours weenies among us, I am thinking about safety so I was gonna mount all 5 tires and get rid of the original spare. Think I'll get points with judges even though the tires wouldn't all match? (Guess I'm obsessing a bit, eh?) Paul (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm8.staticflickr.com-7438-1368225444.1.jpg) Paul Paul, Dump the original spare. Go with 5 period-correct tires that match. You bought five, so use five. Pat |
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| orthobiz |
May 11 2013, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I'm with you, thanks Pat!
Paul |
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| rnellums |
May 13 2013, 10:02 AM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
For anyone ordering from detailer's domain, the code NEWBIE gets 15% off!
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| orthobiz |
May 13 2013, 10:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(rnellums @ May 13 2013, 12:02 PM) For anyone ordering from detailer's domain, the code NEWBIE gets 15% off! I love useful information! And if I write "NEWBIE" and go through the paint, maybe I can get 30 percent off on PRIMER!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Paul |
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| Pat Garvey |
May 16 2013, 06:49 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Paul,
We expect copious quantities of pics from the Parade. Not going to be able tp make it - 90 year old mother-in-law needs to be moved. It's always something! Good luck - you'll do well and, at the least, have an experience few others have had. Pat |
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| Eric_Shea |
May 17 2013, 03:31 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Please Paul; no more pictures of Pat in shorty shorts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
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| Pat Garvey |
May 17 2013, 06:18 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ May 17 2013, 03:31 PM) I had great legs in those days! Clay courts destroyed them. Look like road maps now. But, I'm still cute. Sorry for the hijack, just thought it necessary. |
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| turk22 |
May 18 2013, 08:35 PM
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Treetop Flyer Group: Members Posts: 735 Joined: 27-July 12 From: Cincinnati OH Member No.: 14,725 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I wanted to share this process I found for restoring oxidized single stage paint.
I don't think it applies to the prep you guys are doing, but I plan to try it for my very oxidized original paint. The detail provided in the attached process seems to be just what I need. (This link is for autotraderclassic, but the process is originally from Auto Geek.) http://www.autotraderclassics.com/car-arti...t+1-65310.xhtml Turk |
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| orthobiz |
May 19 2013, 06:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Thanks everybody. I'm having success with a dab of Blue Magic in the middle of a pool of P21S Paintwork Cleanser. I just know I won't have time for third and fourth applications of product!
I will eventually post lots of pics. My daytime job keeps getting in the way. Paul |
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| rnellums |
May 20 2013, 07:23 AM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(turk22 @ May 18 2013, 10:35 PM) I wanted to share this process I found for restoring oxidized single stage paint. I don't think it applies to the prep you guys are doing, but I plan to try it for my very oxidized original paint. The detail provided in the attached process seems to be just what I need. (This link is for autotraderclassic, but the process is originally from Auto Geek.) http://www.autotraderclassics.com/car-arti...t+1-65310.xhtml Turk Great articles/articles! |
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| orthobiz |
Jun 7 2013, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Maybe a dumb question, but here goes:
I'm in the Preservation group but because my car has less than 1000 miles logged per year (25500 for a 39 year old car) I'm lumped into the group with the 356, 911 and 914. So the rules talk about "chassis" which I know is the undersurface of the car. But what are the judges typically looking at, the wheel wells, the exhaust? I mean it's hard to get far under it, no? Paul |
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| dcheek |
Jun 11 2013, 10:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
Ahhhhhhhh,
Reading this thread brings back all the memories, both good and bad regarding preparing a car for a Concours Event. My first Zone One Concours I spent 3 months taking everything apart, cleaning and putting it back together again. I had dirty wheels and tires to drive to the event a day early) and then swapped them with a clean set. Of course once you get it that clean you don't want to drive it - at all! Subsequent shows I would spend up to 30 hours to detail little things. I did very well and got tons of positive reinforcement from the judges and spectators. It really was worth the effort. I remember some judges would find dirt and wipe it on your score sheet. Some thought it was funny, others were humiliated, having slaved over their car for hours, only to have missed an obvious (to the judges) spot. I did have the satisfaction of having literally no dirt on anything, so my score sheet was clean. They had to find something right? A judge ran his finger along the fan belt and got some rubber residue! Everybody, including me got a good laugh out of it but, THAT CAR WAS CLEEEEEEAN, and they knew it. The key is time. You must spend the time to prepare the car. And, if you drive it there, more time to clean up what you got dirty on the drive up. This is why I haven't competed in quite some time. I just don't want to devote 3 months of my life cleaning a car to the nth degree. As far as what products to use, that's like asking someone what is the best oil to use. You will get a different answer from everyone. Experiment, and find what products you are comfortable with. And, just because it cost a lot, doesn't mean it's the best. The two products I use to prepare my paint didn't cost more than $30. If I had a nickel for every time someone asked, "Who painted your car?" and I would reply "Porsche". "The paint is original?" "Yes". So if you spend the time you will do well. Talk to the judges and get your score sheet back at the end of the event to correct what got points off for the next time. It works. And, most important, have fun. That is what this is all about right?? Dave |
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| orthobiz |
Jun 11 2013, 07:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Hey Dave, thanks for all the good advice. Good to hear from you. You helped me when I bought my current car about 6 years ago (actually I begged you to sell me your car but you gave me lots of encouragement, nonetheless!). I used to see your car at the Zone 1 events in the mid 80's, you truly have a beautiful car.
My buddy Mike and I are cleaning up the car every night now. No matter what, I will have fun at the concours. Paterek will have my wheels shipped back to me this Friday, I am psyched! Paul |
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| orthobiz |
Jun 14 2013, 05:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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If I promise now to add pics this weekend, maybe I'll get around to doing it!
Paul |
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| Pat Garvey |
Jun 14 2013, 06:03 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(orthobiz @ Jun 11 2013, 07:50 PM) Hey Dave, thanks for all the good advice. Good to hear from you. You helped me when I bought my current car about 6 years ago (actually I begged you to sell me your car but you gave me lots of encouragement, nonetheless!). I used to see your car at the Zone 1 events in the mid 80's, you truly have a beautiful car. My buddy Mike and I are cleaning up the car every night now. No matter what, I will have fun at the concours. Paterek will have my wheels shipped back to me this Friday, I am psyched! Paul You WILL win! I am so excited for you & wish I could be there. Planned it, until my wife's mother broke here hip. YOU CAN DO IT! Sorry for yelling. Pat |
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