2013 Parade: Went over my Score Sheet, Some errors that I did not contest... Options

[orthobiz]

Thanks Pat, your words of encouragement mean a lot to me. I was feeling pretty good until I realized just how far the quarter panel extends forward, like to the door jambs! Talk about baked on grease!! Still have a lot of work to do...

Paterek is a perfectionist. Apparently my wheels were redone and powdercoated and the junction between the vertical surface and the wheel rim has gunk in it. So he painted it, didn't like the way that it looked and resprayed again yesterday. I gotta call him today to see. The wheels are gonna arrive in the midnight hour!

Paul

[orthobiz]

OK, you're leaving the dealership...Where did Porsche put the Owner's Manual and the Toolkit?

Paul

[Jasfsmith]

OK, you're leaving the dealership...Where did Porsche put the Owner's Manual and the Toolkit?

Paul

I'm not sure if there is a specific way of handling this. Both Parades I competed, I put the Owner's manual and all other documentation arranged on the passenger side floor (glove box empty and closed).

Toolkit I placed open, on the tire board placed in front of the car. I didn't receive and complaints. I saw a mix of this approach by others. Perhaps Pat has a better suggestion.

Good luck!

James Smith

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

Paul,
I'm sure you have these items. The display of which might be apparent when you see how others are arranging them when you get to the concours site. James' suggestion seems tasteful, subdued and low-key.

Paul

[orthobiz]

Some late night cell phone pictures with tree shadows.
I guess I have to stop sometime. I could spend weeks and weeks and weeks just cleaning forever.
This will have to do.

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Paul

[orthobiz]

Been super busy at home, hope to post a few pics soon.

It was a great day for sure!

Paul

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

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A well deserved huzzahh for all your work and effort and for carrying the 914 banner so high for all of us. No doubt you've raised the bar for 914 preservation standards.

Way to go Paul. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

Kudos to Bliz as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

We need more pics of the concours and the 914 entrants that were there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hands.gif)

[orthobiz]

Pictures compliments of Jerry...jgilliam

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Paul

[Jasfsmith]

Great job Paul!

Now you have the post victory depression when you realize that you've got ONLY twelve months to prepare for the next Parade. <grin>

[Jgilliam914]

Great job Paul!

Now you have the post victory depression when you realize that you've got ONLY twelve months to prepare for the next Parade. <grin>

Right now I don't think his wife thinks he will be defending his placing at next years Parade (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

[orthobiz]

I did not contest them because I did not read the sheet while I was there, having already won first place.

Coachwork: possible hit in the right rear
...I think this is from the factory sway bars in the rear trunk

Dash, Steering, Instruments: optional console not on Kardex
...This was part of the chrome bumpers, I would assume, like an Appearance Group

Tools: missing couple of tools
...I have a complete kit, I believe, just less for 1974 than earlier cars.

Paul

[Pat Garvey]

Paul
Congrats! Never a doubt that you would win. Dedication to the task at hand.
Proud of you!
Pat

[JeffBowlsby]

I did not contest them because I did not read the sheet while I was there, having already won first place.

Coachwork: possible hit in the right rear
...I think this is from the factory sway bars in the rear trunk

Dash, Steering, Instruments: optional console not on Kardex
...This was part of the chrome bumpers, I would assume, like an Appearance Group

Tools: missing couple of tools
...I have a complete kit, I believe, just less for 1974 than earlier cars.

Paul

You might want to look into the center console. In the 1973 model year 2.0Ls, lots of the otherwise optional equipment items were standard, but in 1974, these became optional and the equipment groups changed composition.

Your chrome bumpers would have been an extra cost option in 1974, are they shown that way on the COA? Here is a list of separate optional equipment items for all years:

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/OpEq.htm

[orthobiz]

You might want to look into the center console. In the 1973 model year 2.0Ls, lots of the otherwise optional equipment items were standard, but in 1974, these became optional and the equipment groups changed composition.

Your chrome bumpers would have been an extra cost option in 1974, are they shown that way on the COA? Here is a list of separate optional equipment items for all years:

My COA:

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Just "Chrome Bumpers!" And my car has fog lights as well as the center console. I mean, this thing has the wiring harness in place for the console. And I know for a fact from the original owner's son that the chrome bumpers were not parted out for other fog light bumpers and the console was not added separately. With the COA as it is, I'm not so sure the Monroney sticker would be any better (but it is, alas, unavailable).

Any ideas, Jeff?

Paul

[orthobiz]

So this raises the question of whether my car has the appearance group (which it does: 2 horns, shift boot, center console, fog lights, leatherette steering wheel) and it was NOT documented by the factory? Can I correct this? (and I don't mean removing all of that cool stuff!)

Paul

[1970 Neun vierzehn]

Paul,

The CoAs for 914s seem to be useful only for VIN, color code, and engine #. Vagueness (i.e. "US Equipment"), errors (i.e. equipment & options not even coded for 914 models) and omissions (your 914 and my '70 came w/appearance group but was not noted on the CoA) plague 914 CoAs. The satellite Karmann factory in Osnabruck probably didn't have any directives to keep detailed documentation for the 914 production equipment other than the aforementioned items. There have been a number of threads questioning the inaccuracies of 914 certificates.

As far as getting a correction, Pat Garvey could tell you about his frustration in getting an accurate and concise CoA for his 1972 1.7. after receiving questionable data on his CoA.

Paul

[orthobiz]

Paul,

The CoAs for 914s seem to be useful only for VIN, color code, and engine #. Vagueness (i.e. "US Equipment"), errors (i.e. equipment & options not even coded for 914 models) and omissions (your 914 and my '70 came w/appearance group but was not noted on the CoA) plague 914 CoAs. The satellite Karmann factory in Osnabruck probably didn't have any directives to keep detailed documentation for the 914 production equipment other than the aforementioned items. There have been a number of threads questioning the inaccuracies of 914 certificates.

As far as getting a correction, Pat Garvey could tell you about his frustration in getting an accurate and concise CoA for his 1972 1.7. after receiving questionable data on his CoA.

Paul

Thanks, I don't like the judges mentioning inaccuracies that aren't true!

Paul

[JeffBowlsby]

Sure seems like a COA error. All 1974 914s have the center console connections at the chassis harness.

[DRPHIL914]

having only been a 914 owner for a few short years this is very educational for me. I am looking at this issue and wondering about the qualifications of the judges in this area. they should be aware of these inaccuracies in the COA's. They also should be aware of the changes from one model year to the other in regard to something like a tool kit. If we know about it, they should too, and if they don't they should not be judging! Just because they may be experts in say the 911 line does not qualify them to judge 914, 356 etc (IMHO)

Regarding the COA inacuracies, I know that my 75 was a 2.0 with appearance group, which means that it should have had the 2.0 fuchs, but being the 5th owner, it was plundered by a P.O. of those and the center console. Now i am lucky enough that the original sales receipts and the window sticker were with the car, so i know it came with those. I suppose for you, if you had the original window sticker it may have shown them these items in question were indeed on the car at purchase time? just a thought. I know its pretty rare that these were kept, and preserved from one owner to another. Wish mine was in better shape.

anyway, just a few thoughts from a semi-lurker.

oh, and congradulations!!!

[Jasfsmith]

As my 914-6 is a Euro version imported from Switzerland, I prepared a notebook of all my import material, to supplement my COA, and a section listing all the differences between my 6 and a standard US version, complete with references to other sources (ie. factory manuals/parts catalogues and third party books).

At time of judging, I made it available to the chief judge. I believe it did make a difference. Of the two parades I competed in the majority of the judges were very knowledgeable with the 914 model, and did check my documentation.

The idea of the notebook came from John Paterak.