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> Valve Adjustment - do it myself or have it done?
jbachert
post Mar 26 2014, 07:09 AM
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I think I will jack it up and take a look at it from the bottom and see what it looks like to get the valve covers off, etc.

Sounds like it isn't the worst project to tackle.
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post Mar 26 2014, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(jbachert @ Mar 26 2014, 09:09 AM) *

I think I will jack it up and take a look at it from the bottom and see what it looks like to get the valve covers off, etc.

Sounds like it isn't the worst project to tackle.

its not as bad as it seems- the fear of the unkown- i did mine while i had the whole rear suspension out, so that made it a little easier. since i had it all open and apart, i was replacing my push rod tubes and seals, so i wanted to make sure nothing changed after pulling the pushrods out to do the tubes, and putting it all back together- it was easier not having the suspension in the way- getting the valve covers off not that hard, just follow capt's instructions and you will do fine. in the end i only had one that really needed adjusting, it had been only @ 2k miles since my mechanic had done it, and it really had not changed.
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post Mar 26 2014, 08:34 AM
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It is easy. Krusty's method is foolproof and quick. No crawling around looking for marks. I have used his method 10+ times and never had an issue. I have headers so it may be a little better then heat exchangers but access to a couple valves is still limited. Not to hard to work around the tight conditions.
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post Mar 26 2014, 08:38 AM
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With what you say about your mech skills - this is a DYI job.

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post Mar 26 2014, 11:07 AM
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You can, and should do this. I always thought it was a rite of passage when owning any aircooled car to adjust the valves. It'll save you money in the long run and you'll (hopefully) know it was done right.
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post Mar 26 2014, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Jerlle @ Mar 25 2014, 11:33 AM) *

QUOTE(tumamilhem @ Mar 25 2014, 11:17 AM) *

How long would it take an experienced mechanic (anybody here who does it) a valve adjustment on a /4?


I usually give myself 45 minutes to do it but I have a cramped working area.

If the fan is already marked for TDC it should only take about 20 minutes max as far as I can tell.

If anyone is near the LA area and needs help let me know. It is a very easy job to do. Once you've done it a couple times it will become a breeze.



How about an LA valve adjustment clinic someplace??? Bring Your Own JackStands

I'd contribute a few bucks for the lesson and some barbequed animal muscles.
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post Mar 26 2014, 01:23 PM
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Word of caution, be mindful not to put pull down on or pry against the heat exchangers otherwise you could stip one or more of the exhaust studs.
I was stupid when I first got my 914 and went to adjust the valves and used one of the heat exchangers as leverage when to helo remove a valve cover retainer that wouldn't budge.

Not only did I learn how to adjust the valves, I also learned how to install a timesert with the engine in the car to repair the stripped threads for the exchaust studs that I had stripped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Mar 26 2014, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(7TPorsh @ Mar 26 2014, 11:10 AM) *

How about an LA valve adjustment clinic someplace??? Bring Your Own JackStands

I'd contribute a few bucks for the lesson and some barbequed animal muscles.


I'd help out with it. We should find out how many people would actually attend in order to pick the right venue to do it in.
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post Mar 26 2014, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(rjames @ Mar 26 2014, 12:23 PM) *

Word of caution, be mindful not to put pull down on or pry against the heat exchangers otherwise you could stip one or more of the exhaust studs.
I was stupid when I first got my 914 and went to adjust the valves and used one of the heat exchangers as leverage when to helo remove a valve cover retainer that wouldn't budge.

Not only did I learn how to adjust the valves, I also learned how to install a timesert with the engine in the car to repair the stripped threads for the exchaust studs that I had stripped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


In my opinion getting the bale off the valve covers is the hardest part. Probably because I always forget witch length of screwdriver I used to pry it off the last time.
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post Mar 26 2014, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Jerlle @ Mar 26 2014, 03:29 PM) *

QUOTE(rjames @ Mar 26 2014, 12:23 PM) *

Word of caution, be mindful not to put pull down on or pry against the heat exchangers otherwise you could stip one or more of the exhaust studs.
I was stupid when I first got my 914 and went to adjust the valves and used one of the heat exchangers as leverage when to helo remove a valve cover retainer that wouldn't budge.

Not only did I learn how to adjust the valves, I also learned how to install a timesert with the engine in the car to repair the stripped threads for the exchaust studs that I had stripped. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


In my opinion getting the bale off the valve covers is the hardest part. Probably because I always forget witch length of screwdriver I used to pry it off the last time.


I have not done it myself but I have seen someone take a strong rag and loop it over the bale and pull down.
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post Mar 26 2014, 03:39 PM
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Like jawja said, shop towel. Or, use a screw driver to pry the bail out of its rear retaining hole.
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post Mar 26 2014, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Mar 25 2014, 09:09 PM) *

I don't know if I'm the DDD that the Cap'n is referring to--I actually use the TDC method, and it takes me significantly longer than 5 minutes. Of course, I don't have a lift... I think I've done it in as little as 30 minutes, but I'm pretty out of practice now.

One local well-known shop charges 90 minutes labor for it. I think another one charges 1 hour.

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Sorry, Dave, I thought you took part in the writeup. I guess you're stuck with the Pelican method for obvious reasons ....................................

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post Mar 26 2014, 03:50 PM
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I'll do a training session. Gimme good notice, feed me while I'm there.

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post Mar 27 2014, 05:05 AM
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Don't forget, you have to do the adjustment when the engine is cold, preferably after letting it sit overnight.
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post Mar 27 2014, 10:46 AM
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im searching for cap'ns valve adjustment diy,cant find it,please post link
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post Mar 27 2014, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(rosenfe @ Mar 27 2014, 12:46 PM) *

im searching for cap'ns valve adjustment diy,cant find it,please post link


Here you go.
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post Mar 27 2014, 12:57 PM
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What about for a 6?

Still a DIY? Link to tips?
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post Mar 27 2014, 01:35 PM
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A tip given to me by the person that showed me how to adjust my valves; get long feeler gauges like the ones pictured. You won't have to remove the heater boxes etc. to reach the adjusters. And it saves your knuckles.
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post Mar 27 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(dcheek @ Mar 27 2014, 03:35 PM) *

A tip given to me by the person that showed me how to adjust my valves; get long feeler gauges like the ones pictured. You won't have to remove the heater boxes etc. to reach the adjusters. And it saves your knuckles.
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post Apr 22 2014, 04:12 PM
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hey everyone

I just wanted to give props to Jerlle who offered to come and help me perform my first valve job. I love this community for many reasons but primarily because so many of you are will to give a helping hand.

setting the pistons up to actually do the adjustment was confusing and i will still need to do it a couple of times to feel really comfortable but oveall it was not as hared as i had originally thought.

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by the way I have some F1 reading for you al in the sand box.

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