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post Oct 15 2014, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(patssle @ Oct 15 2014, 07:46 PM) *

I just finished (well...nothing is ever finished) my 3.0L conversion for $8700 and 6 months of hard but very satisfying work. A rather low price that I cheated by stealing a motor out of a project 911.... but it's very much possible. I'm still getting use to it but boy do I love the power in 2nd and 3rd gear!

Is that the total price including the car?!
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post Oct 15 2014, 07:54 PM
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Is that the total price including the car?!


No. I bought the car long before I decided on a /6 conversion...so I don't really consider it (along with other non-6 related repairs/expenses) part of the cost.

BTW to OP - my cost breakdown is here for a guide: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=242910&hl=
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post Oct 15 2014, 08:29 PM
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TC and Mark are right on target. Buy someone's project car where they have already spent a ton of cash and just need to get out of it. There is even this '74 conversion for sale right now for $8K that runs and has a six already in it.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=243953
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post Oct 15 2014, 09:17 PM
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I have to agree that it would probably be cheaper to buy a finished conversion, but to tell the truth, I am kind of enjoying the ride. My car is my outlet from the daily grind. I enjoy thinking about the direction that I want to take and the thrill of the hunt for parts that I need. I am an IT nerd that probably should have been a mechanic, so building my car is far more fun for me than buying somebody else's work. Plus, at the end of it all, I will know exactly what I have and not have to worry about whether or not the PO used the old main bearings because "they looked pretty good".

Just my $.02.
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post Oct 15 2014, 09:21 PM
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Working on my car was something to look forward to coming home every night and being out in the garage instead of sitting behind a computer or TV. Especially after sitting at a desk all day. I don't care if I could get a conversion done by somebody else cheaper...I wouldn't trade the past 6 months of hard work for anything! Except maybe a 918. And I can say I built it.
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post Oct 15 2014, 09:40 PM
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My 3.2 six was a lot of fun. (235 hp, yellow) Three speeding tickets. Three trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My 2.2 four is a lot of fun. (147 hp, black) No speeding tickets. No trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 15 2014, 09:57 PM
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I started dreaming in college in '71! Finally I started DOING in 2009 and its just now off the jack stands. Maybe I should have started with a better candidate car in the first place, and maybe I should have picked up one of the several completed ones I've seen here on the forum that would have needed minimal work. But I have a very nice 2.0L -4 that I rebuilt for driving in the meantime.

Figure out just how much of the work is fun/therapy. You can start collecting parts and if a good project or completed car comes along, it won't be hard to sell the parts.

My six is just a 2.0 L. I'm not looking for power, I just want to hear and feel that smooth six behind me. I'm sure I 'll put many more miles on my -4 because I get 32-36 mpg, but the local cars and coffee will see my orange -6 this winter.

So my dreaming time started in '71, doing started in '09...I'd hate it if you got my -6 still a project from my estate sale...

So you better start tomorrow...no, TONIGHT!

Good luck.
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post Oct 15 2014, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 15 2014, 09:40 PM) *

My 3.2 six was a lot of fun. (235 hp, yellow) Three speeding tickets. Three trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My 2.2 four is a lot of fun. (147 hp, black) No speeding tickets. No trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

No tickets... no traffic school... Where's the fun in that?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 15 2014, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Oct 15 2014, 09:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 15 2014, 09:40 PM) *

My 3.2 six was a lot of fun. (235 hp, yellow) Three speeding tickets. Three trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My 2.2 four is a lot of fun. (147 hp, black) No speeding tickets. No trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

No tickets... no traffic school... Where's the fun in that?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Not getting caught. Duh!?
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post Oct 16 2014, 08:07 AM
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I'm doing the exact same things... Fulfilling the dream and working on it at night / weekends.
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post Oct 16 2014, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 15 2014, 08:40 PM) *

My 3.2 six was a lot of fun. (235 hp, yellow) Three speeding tickets. Three trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My 2.2 four is a lot of fun. (147 hp, black) No speeding tickets. No trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Wait a minute. You were just talking about a six last month, weren't you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Oct 16 2014, 08:37 AM
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I know where there's an ugly bondo rayco with a well sorted 2.7 in it for $10K. If this deal was around when I started down this road I would have swapped parts with my car, sold the rayco (as a /4) cheap and would have done this job for a song.

Find someone else's project.
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post Oct 16 2014, 10:04 AM
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My 2056, EFI gets me down the road plenty fast enough... How fast do you want to go. I know my car goes over a 100 mph, I have a gps hud showing only the speed of the car. The other day I had it well over a 100 on the freeway... That's plenty fast enough for me.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 16 2014, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 16 2014, 07:34 AM) *

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 15 2014, 08:40 PM) *

My 3.2 six was a lot of fun. (235 hp, yellow) Three speeding tickets. Three trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My 2.2 four is a lot of fun. (147 hp, black) No speeding tickets. No trips to traffic school. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Wait a minute. You were just talking about a six last month, weren't you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Yep! It's going to happen real soon, one of these days. Some time in the not-to-distant future, maybe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
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post Oct 16 2014, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(StratPlayer @ Oct 16 2014, 08:04 AM) *

My 2056, EFI gets me down the road plenty fast enough... How fast do you want to go. I know my car goes over a 100 mph, I have a gps hud showing only the speed of the car. The other day I had it well over a 100 on the freeway... That's plenty fast enough for me.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


Not so much about top end. Love the flat toque curve of a 6 with sufficient power at most RPMs and a strong pull from on gear to the next.
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post Oct 16 2014, 10:16 PM
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For me, it isn't about top speed at all. It is about usable power and how much fun that can be. I wouldn't want to try to go 150 in a car that wasn't designed and proven to accomplish that speed, but I do love being able to thrash a great handling car on twisty roads with plenty of power to make it go. My current 1.8 stocker isn't that car.
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post Oct 16 2014, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(StratPlayer @ Oct 16 2014, 10:04 AM) *

My 2056, EFI gets me down the road plenty fast enough... How fast do you want to go. I know my car goes over a 100 mph, I have a gps hud showing only the speed of the car. The other day I had it well over a 100 on the freeway... That's plenty fast enough for me.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I'm witness to that- Jamie had no problem swapping places with me on the freeway out to Grand Junction. I could pull away at will of course with only 750 lbs and 95 hp but we cruised happily in and out of traffic all day and the orange beast was always there! I'm partial to the sound of a 6 tho, so that's where I'm going as well. A Porsche 6- too spendy for me so I'm going Subie... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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I feel like a 3.2 would be the only 6 I would dig..On a few levels. The 3.2 has a reputation for being the most reliable of the earlier 911 motors , and the stock configuration has lots of power for a 914. My car is an 8cyl and its fun as it gets. Its different than the 2.0 it replaced, no doubt. I need to drive a 3.2 914 to solidify my thoughts on converting back to an air cooled six.
I agree on buying someones project! Its a money saver if you choose correctly.
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post Oct 16 2014, 10:48 PM
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I feel like a 3.2 would be the only 6 I would dig..On a few levels. The 3.2 has a reputation for being the most reliable of the earlier 911 motors , and the stock configuration has lots of power for a 914. My car is an 8cyl and its fun as it gets. Its different than the 2.0 it replaced, no doubt. I need to drive a 3.2 914 to solidify my thoughts on converting back to an air cooled six.
I agree on buying someones project! Its a money saver if you choose correctly.

Admittedly biased, I couldn't agree more. I love the 3.2. If you are committed to converting your current car, Andy is right, plan on $10-15k.

It can always be done for less if every piece falls together perfectly but I wouldn't consider it realistic. And if it does, you should plan on extra $$ fixing some of those "good deals", IMHO.

Bottom line, once it is converted and dialed in, you will never regret it!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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QUOTE(MoveQik @ Oct 16 2014, 09:48 PM) *

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Oct 16 2014, 09:38 PM) *

I feel like a 3.2 would be the only 6 I would dig..On a few levels. The 3.2 has a reputation for being the most reliable of the earlier 911 motors , and the stock configuration has lots of power for a 914. My car is an 8cyl and its fun as it gets. Its different than the 2.0 it replaced, no doubt. I need to drive a 3.2 914 to solidify my thoughts on converting back to an air cooled six.
I agree on buying someones project! Its a money saver if you choose correctly.

Admittedly biased, I couldn't agree more. I love the 3.2. If you are committed to converting your current car, Andy is right, plan on $10-15k.

It can always be done for less if every piece falls together perfectly but I wouldn't consider it realistic. And if it does, you should plan on extra $$ fixing some of those "good deals", IMHO.

Bottom line, once it is converted and dialed in, you will never regret it!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)



3.0L 911 SC Motor (1978-83) with updated chain tensioners and carbs could be a healthy beast. /6 sound, 180+ ponies and won't shred your 901 trans.
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