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post Jun 8 2016, 01:38 PM
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I've been trying to figure out how you guy's deal with shrinkage. Not for body panels but just general welding. (And no, I did not shrink my car when I installed the Engman Kit) As an example, let's say I'm welding on a 10' piece of pipe that will become a stair rail. Of course it turns 90' on each end and will have flanged ends that screw to the wall. If the 90' elbows are welded on then the length of the rail will shorten "x" inches. Can this be prevented with pre heating. If so, do you apply heat to the entire piece or just where the weld will be? Do you accept that shrinkage will occur and just do not drill any matching holes until after the weld? Is there a formula that adjusts for this shrinkage? Do you bolt it in place then weld to prevent shrinkage? Also, I don't remember this being a problem with gas welding but that was years ago. My imagination or not? TIA, Kent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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I think you heard from the experts. The basic problem is that as the metal is joined part of it is at a high temp and thus expanded. Particularly the puddle. So thinking about it, the smaller the puddle, I.e. Smaller the weld, the less the problem. So you can anticipate it it by starting a bit long. My favorite is little tacks followed by checking measurements. That way the puddles are smaller and as you add more tacks the cooling metal cannot shrink and is forced to stretch. Eventually the majority of the weld is in the correct length and you can fill it all. I did a stair rail for my dad, but I drilled the mounting holes after the fact.
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76-914   A Question for our Welder's/Fabricator's   Jun 8 2016, 01:38 PM
ssuperflyoldguy   I've been trying to figure out how you guy...   Jun 8 2016, 01:56 PM
Optimusglen   I don't claim to be an expert, but I've do...   Jun 8 2016, 02:08 PM
Andyrew   Shrinkage isnt typically something that is factore...   Jun 8 2016, 02:54 PM
mb911   Shrinkage isnt typically something that is factor...   Jun 8 2016, 03:09 PM
914_teener   Shrinkage isnt typically something that is facto...   Jun 8 2016, 05:50 PM
mb911   [quote name='mb911' post='2356647' date='Jun 8 20...   Jun 8 2016, 06:00 PM
Chris H.   I've been trying to figure out how you guy...   Jun 8 2016, 03:19 PM
r_towle   I've been trying to figure out how you guy...   Jun 8 2016, 08:21 PM
Chris H.   [quote name='Chris H.' post='2356649' date='Jun 8...   Jun 9 2016, 08:52 AM
Jeff Hail   Shrinkage happens and yes you have to anticipate i...   Jun 8 2016, 06:29 PM
cary   I always remind guys that's why a MIG has a t...   Jun 8 2016, 08:11 PM
barefoot   With automatic TIG welding on heavy wall tube/pipe...   Jun 8 2016, 06:47 PM
rick 918-S   What these guys said. :agree: Specially Jeff when ...   Jun 8 2016, 07:58 PM
76-914   Jeff, Rick & Barefoot; thank you very much. An...   Jun 9 2016, 08:32 AM
veekry9   RPgb77Ruz7g https://www.youtube.com/results?search...   Jun 9 2016, 08:39 AM
76-914   Unfortunately I was born with shrinkage ,Chris :r...   Jun 9 2016, 09:34 AM
worn   I think you heard from the experts. The basic prob...   Jun 9 2016, 12:09 PM
76-914   That makes perfect sense. The more I learn about w...   Jun 9 2016, 03:44 PM


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