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> Is this picture photo shopped?, I never saw a 904 up close
Big Len
post Jul 27 2016, 12:30 PM
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Is this possible? I can't believe it. The Cayman looks like a limo.

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post Jul 28 2016, 03:28 PM
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BTW, the car maker is ALFA, not Alpha. It's actually an acronym, which stands for (rough translation) "Company in Lombardy that Makes Automobiles". Just like FIAT is an acronym for "Maker of Italian Automobiles in Turin".

Sadly, I'm pretty sure the sub-Boxster will never happen. Porsche's goal is to make money, and the higher-end the cars are the more money they make. A lower-cost "mass-market" car is not going to be the profit-generator that their current lineup has.

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post Jul 28 2016, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jul 28 2016, 02:28 PM) *

BTW, the car maker is ALFA, not Alpha. It's actually an acronym, which stands for (rough translation) "Company in Lombardy that Makes Automobiles". Just like FIAT is an acronym for "Maker of Italian Automobiles in Turin".

Sadly, I'm pretty sure the sub-Boxster will never happen. Porsche's goal is to make money, and the higher-end the cars are the more money they make. A lower-cost "mass-market" car is not going to be the profit-generator that their current lineup has.

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Thanx for the ALFA/FIAT correction Dave - I actually knew that back in the gray cell recesses, but I must've hit the wrong spellcheck option for my too-fast typing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

At $40-50K of the initial years of the Boxster, it wouldn't exactly be an economy sports car, & the base Macan S was introduced in March 2015 at $49,900 IIRC, & the base V6 Cayenne was around that range when it was introduced in `04 I think (V8 Cay S came out first).

So Porsche has a long history of both having their financial butts saved by such more mundane or commonplace cars for the masses (according to the 911-only & up crowd) - as our 914/4s did for them in the early `70's, as well as starting them out in a reasonable price range.

Speaking of which - both the Macan & Cayenne are both shared VW/Audi/Porsche platforms, & are saving their fannies now, enabling them to make the more expensive & higher margin cars.

They also need to sell more cars with higher mpg to meet the upcoming CAFE standards - even with the recent downsizing of them - & a few very high priced hybrids & future EVs will nOT let them meet them. Whereas, if they sold as many sub-Boxters with more mpg than the then current CAFE level - then it's a simple matter of math - division of many high mpg cars in the fleet, to offset those with lower mpg than the standard.

Many cars with just a small mpg over the target, will be easier to offset the total fleet numbers - than will a few very hi mpg hybrid/EV cars whose "overage mpg" would have to be very high for an equal effect.

It's just that their management folks are as or more fickle than a "high-acquaintance woman" (or man), & keep dithering on the sub-Boxster. IMHO, the math of CAFE mpg & being able to sell that 3rd Porsche (or 4th, 5th, etc.) to the wealthier, as well as some as entry level NEW Porsches will eventually bring them around.

After all, they've announced, recinded & re-announced a couple of times already on it!

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Big Len   Is this picture photo shopped?   Jul 27 2016, 12:30 PM
mepstein   I'm pretty sure it's real. Porsches got BI...   Jul 27 2016, 12:34 PM
bulitt   I'm pretty sure it's real. Porsches got B...   Jul 27 2016, 04:19 PM
zambezi   yup that's true scale, crazy huh.   Jul 27 2016, 12:40 PM
Series9   I'm not a 904 expert, but I would say that...   Jul 27 2016, 12:40 PM
Rand   I had an early MR2 park next to me once. I stood i...   Jul 27 2016, 12:43 PM
Cuda911   I had an early MR2 park next to me once. I stood ...   Jul 27 2016, 10:30 PM
Ferg   They are really low, don't think it's phot...   Jul 27 2016, 12:47 PM
RohJay   They are really low, don't think it's pho...   Jul 27 2016, 01:04 PM
Tom_T   Perhaps there is a valid case for a sub-718 model...   Jul 27 2016, 04:16 PM
Mark Henry   My 914 was parked beside a 550 (kit) at a show, th...   Jul 28 2016, 01:17 PM
914forme   :agree: 904 is about 60 inches wide and 42 inches ...   Jul 27 2016, 12:57 PM
Rand   They more than likely did use one trick and that ...   Jul 27 2016, 01:01 PM
914forme   the Caymans are huge also, guy at works has one...   Jul 27 2016, 01:09 PM
Rand   the Caymans are huge also, guy at works has on...   Jul 27 2016, 01:12 PM
MoveQik   They've become fat. Me and a Boxster....   Jul 27 2016, 01:13 PM
MoveQik   But don't worry...it's not just Porsche :-...   Jul 27 2016, 01:23 PM
larss   The Porsches got fat long long time ago... /Lars ...   Jul 27 2016, 01:29 PM
billh1963   The Porsches got fat long long time ago... To ...   Jul 27 2016, 01:31 PM
Montreal914   But don't worry...it's not just Porsche :...   Jul 27 2016, 01:51 PM
JmuRiz   I'd say real, just looked up dimensions: 904: ...   Jul 27 2016, 01:38 PM
billh1963   I'd say real, just looked up dimensions: 904:...   Jul 27 2016, 02:25 PM
flyer86d   I remember seeing Gil Meyer's 904 back in the ...   Jul 27 2016, 02:21 PM
Tom_T   Is this possible? I can't believe it. The Cay...   Jul 27 2016, 04:07 PM
Randal   I was following a Porsche GT across Golden Gate Br...   Jul 27 2016, 04:17 PM
enf2232   Since we are comparing ...   Jul 27 2016, 04:25 PM
Tom_T   Since we are comparing ... http://www.914world.c...   Jul 27 2016, 04:42 PM
Racer   My dad's 914-6 next to his Cayman (which give ...   Jul 27 2016, 05:56 PM
DirtyCossack   If you want a crazier growth, look at the evolutio...   Jul 27 2016, 06:45 PM
bandjoey   I think it's real And this one?   Jul 27 2016, 10:11 PM
Tom_T   I think it's real And this one? Yes that...   Jul 28 2016, 01:06 PM
Optimusglen   I don't think anyone should complain about how...   Jul 28 2016, 07:36 AM
RohJay   991 is beautiful in its own right. But looks so bl...   Jul 28 2016, 08:34 AM
sb914   RE: Is this picture photo shopped?   Jul 28 2016, 08:35 AM
mbseto   I don't think anyone should complain about ho...   Jul 28 2016, 10:56 AM
Tom_T   I don't think anyone should complain about h...   Jul 28 2016, 01:19 PM
bretth   Several years ago I was DDing a 76 Dodge like this...   Jul 28 2016, 01:19 PM
Unobtanium-inc   The 904 is very small when you are standing next t...   Jul 28 2016, 01:28 PM
Brian Mifsud   Scale the weights... All Porsches up til the mid- ...   Jul 28 2016, 01:35 PM
Tom_T   Scale the weights... All Porsches up til the mid-...   Jul 28 2016, 01:49 PM
stuttgart46   Say what you want about how big the modern Porsche...   Jul 28 2016, 01:49 PM
Tom_T   Say what you want about how big the modern Porsch...   Jul 28 2016, 01:55 PM
Rand   Thanks for the facts, Tom. I was a little baffled ...   Jul 28 2016, 01:51 PM
Tom_T   Thanks for the facts, Tom. I was a little baffled...   Jul 28 2016, 02:48 PM
stuttgart46   No offense taken Tom. They're all great cars....   Jul 28 2016, 02:52 PM
Tom_T   No offense taken Tom. They're all great cars...   Jul 28 2016, 02:55 PM
JmuRiz   In person the 919 and Audi R18 are very small.   Jul 28 2016, 02:57 PM
Dave_Darling   BTW, the car maker is ALFA, not Alpha. It's a...   Jul 28 2016, 03:28 PM
Tom_T   BTW, the car maker is ALFA, not Alpha. It's ...   Jul 28 2016, 04:02 PM
carr914   The 904 was just a fiberglass shelled "unib...   Jul 28 2016, 05:14 PM
Unobtanium-inc   The 904 was just a fiberglass shelled "uni...   Jul 28 2016, 07:44 PM
914forme   :agree: 904 was also crash tested. Seemed to ...   Jul 28 2016, 06:04 PM
JmuRiz   And I know Jeff Zwart drives his 906 to cars and c...   Jul 29 2016, 07:01 AM
mbseto   Actually folks, Porsche did a pretty good job abo...   Jul 29 2016, 07:19 AM
SKL1   I remember when in high school I had friends with ...   Jul 29 2016, 09:10 AM
Tom_T   I remember when in high school I had friends with...   Jul 29 2016, 10:57 AM
TJB/914   :popcorn:   Jul 29 2016, 08:48 PM
Tom_T   :popcorn: Great pix Tom! Although I must s...   Jul 30 2016, 04:32 PM
sixnotfour   Only thing around to compare with...   Jul 30 2016, 08:56 AM
Rand   :lol: Does this 914 make my Deere(iere) look fat?   Jul 30 2016, 12:28 PM


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