Driving lights out oil cooler in?, Oil coolers in front for efficient cool air not hacking up the trunk Options

[wes]

After about 20 min of freeway driving under nromal conditions my oil is getting to hot on my 2.0 - 4 now 2056. As a result I've looked at a number of ideas for external cooling in the rear and feel that the best way is really up front though don't realy want to cut into the trunk area. I'm considering removing the fog lights and installing a oil cooler in each of the fog light locations and venting to the rear of the front tires. I'm just in the thought stage after talking with some of the guys at Jeffs celebration Saturday. I realy like the way Andy has done his though just can't bring myself to cut into my new paint or give up my trunk area besides I want to keep her a bit stock looking so I've been looking at a number post here of the set ups in the rear and worry about the efficiency in an area that is heated by the engine, exhaust, and blacktop though certainly less $$ I'm sure. Has any one successfully done this or seen it before? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[nine9three]

I think it could easily be done by ducting under the front trunk ala DPD. Look at the condensor unit and picture an oil cooler in its place. Done. Best of all not visible from any corner of the car and bumper/spoiler changes.

[wes]

I think it could easily be done by ducting under the front trunk ala DPD. Look at the condensor unit and picture an oil cooler in its place. Done. Best of all not visible from any corner of the car and bumper/spoiler changes.

Ok I'm a bit slow, DPD and I have no condenser unit?

[Jetsetsurfshop]

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[wes]

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Perfect just what I had in mind! So looks like it's vented out in front of the tires, no problems with heat to brakes and tires? What oil coolers did you use?

[Cairo94507]

Yup. I did exactly that on my last Six with a 3.0, using two VW oil coolers, one in each foglight grill opening, connected together and run to a turbo thermostat by the engine. All braided SS lines, bullet proof and never got over 180-190 driving in the Bay Area in the summer. I will look to see if I can find a picture....that was before digital cameras....jeeze, how old am I?

[wes]

Don't talk about old I'm turning 70 next month and people are falling off around me!

[barefoot]

After about 20 min of freeway driving under nromal conditions my oil is getting to hot on my 2.0 - 4 now 2056. As a result I've looked at a number of ideas for external cooling in the rear and feel that the best way is really up front though don't realy want to cut into the trunk area. I'm considering removing the fog lights and installing a oil cooler in each of the fog light locations and venting to the rear of the front tires. I'm just in the thought stage after talking with some of the guys at Jeffs celebration Saturday. I realy like the way Andy has done his though just can't bring myself to cut into my new paint or give up my trunk area besides I want to keep her a bit stock looking so I've been looking at a number post here of the set ups in the rear and worry about the efficiency in an area that is heated by the engine, exhaust, and blacktop though certainly less $$ I'm sure. Has any one successfully done this or seen it before?

Look here for a plethora of ex cooler ideas:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=108328

[maf914]

Perfect just what I had in mind! So looks like it's vented out in front of the tires, no problems with heat to brakes and tires? What oil coolers did you use?

The orange 914 with the dual oil coolers belongs to Brant who posted a build thread some time ago. Great thread and a beautiful car. See the link below for more photos of the oil cooler installation. Impressive.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=19706

[jim_hoyland]

Perfect just what I had in mind! So looks like it's vented out in front of the tires, no problems with heat to brakes and tires? What oil coolers did you use?

The orange 914 with the dual oil coolers belongs to Brant who posted a build thread some time ago. Great thread and a beautiful car. See the link below for more photos of the oil cooler installation. Impressive.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=19706

Wow ! and that was back in 2004....verrrry nice ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[sixnotfour]

My front trunk is perfect..rear trunk not so much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

[morgan_harwell]

The setup in the orange car (post#4) eliminates room for the head lights.
OK for a race car 914, no so great for a highway driven 914 (post#1).

[wes]

Realy amazed at the Orange car and thought at first it was my answer but yes after looking at the amazing build tread realized the race car had no need for headlights. Not giving up on the idea though hoping to see photos from Cairo94507. Wonder if it's possible to tunnel the air back from that location to another and exit out.

[stugray]

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...2

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I could still have operational headlights with those.
Last race weekend was over 100 on the track and my oil never got over 220.

They intake through the foglamp holes and out through the wheel wells

[SirAndy]

After about 20 min of freeway driving under nromal conditions my oil is getting to hot on my 2.0 - 4 now 2056.

It would probably be easier and cheaper to find out why it's overheating and fix that instead of trying to band-aid the real problem with an external cooler.
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[stugray]

After about 20 min of freeway driving under nromal conditions my oil is getting to hot on my 2.0 - 4 now 2056.

It would probably be easier and cheaper to find out why it's overheating and fix that instead of trying to band-aid the real problem with an external cooler.
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Even a 2056, normal driving, it should not overheat.
In my first 914, I installed an oil cooler and it didn't help, turns out it was my temp sender that was messed up, nothing wrong with the engine otherwise.

[Chris H.]

After about 20 min of freeway driving under nromal conditions my oil is getting to hot on my 2.0 - 4 now 2056.

It would probably be easier and cheaper to find out why it's overheating and fix that instead of trying to band-aid the real problem with an external cooler.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Can't hurt to put a cooler in but it shouldn't overheat in normal driving conditions. Could be something pretty simple. Flaps/thermostat working? All the tin in place?

BTW Shane that cooler setup is SWEEET.

[BeatNavy]

We kind of just talked about this last weekend. What actual temperature numbers are you seeing, Wes? (Did I miss where you said that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) )

Last weekend the poster was worried about 210 degrees, which is within the realm of normal. I'd hate to see steel get cut and expensive solutions put in place that aren't needed.

[SirAndy]

What actual temperature numbers are you seeing, Wes?

He said it goes up to 250 during normal driving, which is certainly NOT normal and way too high ...
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[wes]

I agree defiantly after talking with the guys Saturday I checked the thermostat as soon as I got back home and it seems to be good. I have oil temp, head temp and the dipstick temp gauge. I'm guessing the head temperature would read out temperatures at a defferant rate and forgot to check the dipstick gauge wich I kind of think would not be as accurate but not sure and just didn't think to check it. I am going to go for a drive later today and compare them as its supposed to be in the mid 90 here today would love to replace the sender and be done with it. I also would like to look for someone to check the timing carbs and anything else that may cause her to run hot as well. I've used a shop in Oakland years that is about 2 hours south of my home in Ukiah and have always been happy with them in the past but can't hurt to check with a different shop. If anyone has a shop they believe in that might be closer with knowledge of our cars would realy like to hear of them. Im not just wanting to add more to the car to cool it but seem to be two sides on the temperature and 2056 engines some saying (my present shop) that it's a good idea and after this weekend talking to people that I regard as very knowledgeable need to check more. I've been waiting to get out and realy drive this car for so long I'm probably kind over anxious.