 need advise on wheels and meter, Porsche 914 2.0 1973 euro spec |
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| dax1969 |
 Sep 18 2017, 06:05 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 10-March 14 From: belgium Member No.: 17,103 Region Association: None 
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Hi,
Sorry for double post in other thread (faster reply here in the garage) but need to know what brand of wheels the below are. Thought Riviera but the ones I found are with silver insert and not black. Also, do you know what kind of meter this is ? Oilpressure ? car = 1973 2.0 euro spec thks Dax   |
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 18 2017, 06:18 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The wheels are ATS, the gauge is likely older aftermarket VDO.
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| dax1969 |
Sep 18 2017, 06:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 10-March 14 From: belgium Member No.: 17,103 Region Association: None
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Thks Mark Henry. Those wheels are aftermarket and not original ? 1973 it should have babyfuchs rims ? The VDO meter is an oilpressure meter ? If it works what should it read ? Think you guys have PSI but I can see kg2/km... ??? This meter was never standard in a 914 euro spec ? Any idea out of which car it could come ? Sorry for asking but checking on a car tomorrow and want to be prepared krgds Dax |
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| 914Sixer |
Sep 18 2017, 07:05 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,875 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Oil gauge looks like it is from an Opel GT. New VDO gauges are available for about $40.
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| barefoot |
Sep 18 2017, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,271 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(dax1969 @ Sep 18 2017, 08:35 AM)  Thks Mark Henry. Those wheels are aftermarket and not original ? 1973 it should have babyfuchs rims ? The VDO meter is an oilpressure meter ? If it works what should it read ? Think you guys have PSI but I can see kg2/km... ??? This meter was never standard in a 914 euro spec ? Any idea out of which car it could come ? Sorry for asking but checking on a car tomorrow and want to be prepared krgds Dax the Kp is kilopascal and = to .01 bar. not sure about the km, doesn't make sense. 1 bar=14.5 psi, so I'm guessing it's just reading in bar units. |
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| Tom_T |
Sep 18 2017, 09:58 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(dax1969 @ Sep 18 2017, 05:35 AM) Thks Mark Henry. Those wheels are aftermarket and not original ? 1973 it should have babyfuchs rims ? The VDO meter is an oilpressure meter ? If it works what should it read ? Think you guys have PSI but I can see kg2/km... ??? This meter was never standard in a 914 euro spec ? Any idea out of which car it could come ? Sorry for asking but checking on a car tomorrow and want to be prepared krgds Dax Hi Dax, Wheels: 1973 could have had either the 4-Lug Fuchs 2L wheels (Baby Fuchs), or Pedrine alloy, or Mahle 4-lug Baby Gas Burner alloys, or the "Star Mag Style" steel wheels. Your 914's Certificate of Authenticity (COA) should say which it was, or you may have to do a bit of research (for example, if it were a 2.0 built for the USA from Aug. 72 to early 73, then it would probably have had the 2L Fuchs, since in the USA it was marketed as a "fully loaded" with both Appearance & Performance/Sport Groups of options as the "914S" - while later in the 73 MY for 2L's & for the 1.7s it could be any of the 4. Also, the original owner could've ordered any wheels set or had them swapped at the dealer when new. Of course the dealers could have also put on those ATS wheels or any others, or at any point since at any tire & wheel shop in the 4+ decades since. I think that Mark Heard is right, that the VDO oil temp is from an Opel GT of that era, based on my fuzzy memory from the late 1960's when the Dad of a high school lady friend had a 68 or 69 GT. EDIT: I think that the numbers are for x100 degrees F. <?? I'll defer to Barefoot above, because I can't read the tiny print on that gauge pic, but oil pressure is the other obvious choice, but the 1-5 ticks didn't make sense to me!? You can see pix of the correct 914 gauges by years at p914.com ( & .net & .org) - the 73 should have had the wider red band version - whether the one in the center console, or the combo fuel/OT gauge in the dash pod. You should also go to Jeff Bowlsby's 914 website (find him in members here & he has links in his signature section), & download the 914 inspection form .pdf - which I think is in the tech documents section, & use that when you see the car, & give it to any mechanic who does the PPI for you. Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| worn |
Sep 18 2017, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(barefoot @ Sep 18 2017, 05:27 AM) the Kp is kilopascal and = to .01 bar. not sure about the km, doesn't make sense. 1 bar=14.5 psi, so I'm guessing it's just reading in bar units. Looks like kiloPascals per square centimeter. That and the OEL below make me think it is indeed an oil pressure gauge. |
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 18 2017, 11:07 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(worn @ Sep 18 2017, 12:32 PM) QUOTE(barefoot @ Sep 18 2017, 05:27 AM) the Kp is kilopascal and = to .01 bar. not sure about the km, doesn't make sense. 1 bar=14.5 psi, so I'm guessing it's just reading in bar units. Looks like kiloPascals per square centimeter. That and the OEL below make me think it is indeed an oil pressure gauge. Wrong.......Americans (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .....tisk-tisk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) You should have embraced the metric system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I can't read it but it's likeley it's kgf/cm^, other clue is it only goes up to 5. kilopascale = .14 psi kilogram/cm^ =14.2 psi |
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| dax1969 |
Sep 18 2017, 03:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 10-March 14 From: belgium Member No.: 17,103 Region Association: None
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Thanks to all of you. I will see the car tomorrow and will take a closer look on the gauges. What I could see on the pictures is that the gauges are wrongly mounted. Top is this funny "opel gt" gauge, middle volt and below the clock. What I could find is that clock must be on top. Most pics on google are fm usa spec cars and I am not sure if euro spec are different.
ATS wheels, not my cup of tea but ok these things can be changed. First checking the mechanical and cosmetic side Greetings Dax |
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| napasteve |
Sep 18 2017, 08:25 PM
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914 driving winemaker Group: Members Posts: 501 Joined: 2-January 13 From: Napa, CA Member No.: 15,327 Region Association: Northern California
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Mark, we Americans are inching our way toward metric! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| twistedstang |
Sep 19 2017, 05:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 220 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Port Huron, MI Member No.: 5,395 Region Association: None
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QUOTE Wrong.......Americans (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .....tisk-tisk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) You should have embraced the metric system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I can't read it but it's likeley it's kgf/cm^, other clue is it only goes up to 5. kilopascale = .14 psi kilogram/cm^ =14.2 psi Just remember. There are two kinds of countries in this world. Those that use the metric system, and those that have been to the moon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
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| Larmo63 |
Sep 19 2017, 09:46 AM
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At this point, I doubt we really ever went to the moon.
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| dax1969 |
Sep 19 2017, 09:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 10-March 14 From: belgium Member No.: 17,103 Region Association: None
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  Had a look today and indeed "oel" german for oil and kp/cm2. Car showed 4 on the meter but have no clue if this is good. Saw the invoice of 6000 euro for the interior but the upholsterer has put in the gauges in the wrong way. Great Krgds Dax |
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| SirAndy |
Sep 19 2017, 10:46 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,618 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(twistedstang @ Sep 19 2017, 04:30 AM) Just remember. There are two kinds of countries in this world. Those that use the metric system, and those that have been to the moon. You do realize that all the telemetry for your moon flight was done in metric, yes? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Also, we pesky Germans build those moon rockets for you, you are welcome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) |
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| 87m491 |
Sep 19 2017, 11:35 AM
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1 KiloPascal= 1 Bar = 1.01 Atmosphere = 14.5 PSI
So your showing ~ 4.5 bar of oil pressure or ~65 PSI which is very good or great depending on oil temp and RPM. QUOTE(dax1969 @ Sep 19 2017, 07:58 AM) Had a look today and indeed "oel" german for oil and kp/cm2. Car showed 4 on the meter but have no clue if this is good. Saw the invoice of 6000 euro for the interior but the upholsterer has put in the gauges in the wrong way. Great Krgds Dax |
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| Rav914 |
Sep 19 2017, 12:14 PM
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All-weather fan Group: Members Posts: 738 Joined: 15-April 07 From: WA Member No.: 7,669 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 19 2017, 09:46 AM) Also, we pesky Germans build those moon rockets for you, you are welcome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYco0UsWhLc From "The Right Stuff" |
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| burton73 |
Sep 19 2017, 03:53 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,510 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(napasteve @ Sep 18 2017, 07:25 PM) What no Whitworth! Just when you thought it was safe with 2 tool sets. Bob B |
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| whitetwinturbo |
Sep 24 2017, 02:08 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
Mark, we Americans are one foot closer toward metric!
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| walterolin |
Sep 24 2017, 06:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 685 Joined: 30-November 11 From: Louisville, Ky Member No.: 13,838 Region Association: South East States |
"Wrong.......Americans.....tisk-tisk ...
You should have embraced the metric system." Somebody needs to tell the Canadian National Railroad... |
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