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> 914-6 2.7 Euro RS Twin Plug Project, sleeper 914 with a twin plug surprise
davehg
post Sep 19 2017, 06:57 PM
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New member, long time lurker here. I'll be posting another 914-6 conversion project shortly, but posting a thanks for now for all the great info I've come across here.

I took the easy way into 914-6 ownership - I bought a completed car that was a track car whose PO had done the hard work. This car has a 3.2L engine, injected, with large riveted composite flares, and a pretty austere race-friendly interior with racing seats, roll cage, and little else - not even side windows or carpeting or panels. This car I refer to as the Outlaw - it's a middle finger to the purists and I absolutely love it.

But...I wanted a clean and pretty "cars and coffee" version. There's not a ton of value restoring the Outlaw. The Outlaw's body is fine, but it is purposely built.

I had bought a project from a local Porschephile who had too many nice projects (356, pre-73 911). his goal was originally to do a big Raby 4. He had stripped, prepped, and beautifully painted a really nice shell, and spent a small fortune getting the original bumpers and details correct. He had a set of mint Fuchs 14" wheels, bits and pieces from 2 interiors, and was really only missing the engine and some trim/interior bits. A deal was struck, trailer was hitched, boxes moved, and now it's my problem.

The conversion wisdom here seems to be to go big - 3.0l or more. But I have a big engine car. This is intended to be just a Sunday cruiser, no track time. Plus, I have access to perfectly nice prepped 2.7L that has case guards installed, a 911s cam, and the work mostly done, for a decent price, and it would sound just swell with PMOs. So I am heading this route. I am taking my time with the Pretty Car - not going to be concours but a great looking driver with super clean details, no flares, and more along the lines of an original -6 with a bit more oomph. I'll detail the suspension bits so it looks pretty on a lift, and I need to think through the oil cooling issues - it doesn't get super hot in the PNW but for a few days a year, and if I can avoid the expense of a front mounted cooler and running lines that would be just swell.

At least that's my current plan. We'll see where my budget leads. I have a good start - great primed and painted rust free shell, all the expensive body work complete, an engine lined up, and a clear vision of where I want to go.

Looking forward to the collective input and experience when I get started this winter.
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davehg
post Nov 11 2023, 02:22 PM
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For the interior, I struggled on whether to go completely stock with a back pad, or follow what I did for the 3.2 (Perlon, no back pad). Lots of research and discussion with my interior guy, but I finally decided to go with Lakewell carpet (they are in Belgium and one of the top Porsche interior providers).

I chose the charcoal hargaan velour which is used in the 911, and really makes the interior pop. The quality is on par with 911 OEM and very much an upgrade over stock Porsche 914 stuff I've used, and much more stout than Perlon. It took a while to make it to the states, and I had to email them to get enough fabric for the back pad, which my upholstery shop custom stitched. Note how they covered the center beam and the rear lower B panel gap with vinyl that looks more like leather. We used All City Convertibles, which many Rgruppe folks use in the PNW. Matt, the owner, loves Porsches and has done many cars including several that were in Panorama and Excellence.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699734162.1.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699734163.2.jpg)

Since I have an early car, had to weld in the adjuster to enable the passenger seat to tilt.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699734163.3.jpg)

For the doors, I dropped the idea of using RS doors. I have these in my 3.2 and while they work for that car, this car has more of a touring feel rather than a race car feel. I had a set of AppBiz door panels, but their fit and finish was not up to the rest of the interior standards, so they were recovered and refit.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699734163.4.jpg)

The dash was a fun part. I had earlier found a complete wiring harness on Bay and this was scavenged for the switches and various bits. Went with a mostly stock dash, but decided to do a GT style fuel gauge rather than a multi gauge (I was inspired by Bernie's legendary GT build). Bernie had an angled mount welded up to accept a fuel gauge (though I really wanted to do a silver dot mod - maybe one day), and it turned out awesome as the interior shop was able to mold the basket weave around it.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699734163.5.jpg)

I used 914Rubber parts liberally here, including some of the A and B pillar parts, and the targa pad. I struggled with their dash pad - the early cars may have fitment issues, and there was a sizable gap from the stock knee bar pad with their replacement dash. Mine may be an exception as I see many others without the fitment problem (later cars I think). You can see the bow in the dash pad, and numerous efforts to refit it didn't work.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699734163.6.jpg)


Again, Bernie to the rescue as he sourced an OEM dash that fit perfectly. I didn't have the same issues with the targa bar pads, which fit great and look good, as do the stock visors.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699734163.7.jpg)


I was planning on using the stock seats, but they don't have much lateral support. I do drives with fellow RGruppe guys and we can get a bit spirited, so I looked at various options. GTS Classic is not producing seats any longer (I think they just sell kits now). Then a pair of OEM Scheel Mann seats, reupholstered in original fabric, fell into my lap for a decent price. They look and feel excellent. Note the seatbelts - four point Sparco belts attached using Mittlemotor harness mounts on the rear firewall. I hope to replace the sparco labels with some Repa labels just to be more period correct.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699734803.1.jpg)

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davehg   914-6 2.7 Euro RS Twin Plug Project   Sep 19 2017, 06:57 PM
arne   :wttc: As you already know, there is a whole pil...   Sep 19 2017, 07:01 PM
davehg   :wttc: Oh yeah... :ttiwwp: Here is the Outla...   Sep 20 2017, 10:22 AM
GeorgeRud   The 2.7 is a great engine for your conversion. Mi...   Sep 19 2017, 07:08 PM
PanelBilly   I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine. W...   Sep 19 2017, 09:27 PM
davehg   I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine. ...   Sep 19 2017, 10:29 PM
Mark Henry   I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine....   Dec 17 2017, 03:46 PM
Larmo63   There are a few of us here who have just crossed t...   Sep 19 2017, 10:59 PM
aharder   :wttc:   Sep 20 2017, 03:51 AM
mepstein   :wttc: Try it without the cooler and add it if t...   Sep 20 2017, 05:32 AM
mb911   Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out my ...   Sep 20 2017, 10:43 AM
davehg   Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out my...   Sep 21 2017, 02:07 PM
mb911   Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out m...   Sep 21 2017, 04:20 PM
davehg   I love coming home to packages. The Pretty Car c...   Sep 20 2017, 09:59 PM
Mikey914   Welcome Dave, Where in the PNW are ya? You may fi...   Sep 20 2017, 10:08 PM
Perry Kiehl   Looks like a very worth chassis. I do engine harn...   Sep 21 2017, 11:37 AM
JOEPROPER   Looks like a very worth chassis. I do engine har...   Sep 21 2017, 12:19 PM
davehg   Thanks Perry and Mikey. I am just outside of Seatt...   Sep 21 2017, 02:01 PM
Dave_Darling   (trying to locate two rear 5 lug hubs - either af...   Sep 22 2017, 02:20 PM
mb911   The 2 piece tanks off ebay take some specialty too...   Sep 21 2017, 02:07 PM
Drums66   .....WELCOME! :shades2: :wavebye:   Sep 21 2017, 02:39 PM
Cairo94507   :wttc: Looks like you got two nice cars there. Wa...   Sep 22 2017, 07:03 AM
davehg   The first few weeks into this project and I feel l...   Sep 28 2017, 03:10 PM
mb911   Dave sounds like a good list.. If Eric@pmb can...   Sep 28 2017, 09:06 PM
PanelBilly   Get the engine started. Work on everything else af...   Sep 28 2017, 10:29 PM
davehg   Ok, the engine is getting started - it will be hap...   Oct 5 2017, 10:09 PM
mb911   Ok, the engine is getting started - it will be ha...   Oct 6 2017, 05:16 AM
mepstein   [quote name='davehg' post='2534787' date='Oct 5 2...   Oct 6 2017, 06:35 PM
davehg   Here's a question - air compressors? I am need...   Oct 5 2017, 10:19 PM
Larmo63   I'm partial to the Patrick motor mount, and I ...   Oct 5 2017, 10:49 PM
davehg   I'm partial to the Patrick motor mount, and I...   Oct 6 2017, 02:41 PM
gms   Looks like Bernie's work   Oct 6 2017, 05:02 PM
davehg   You guessed it, my project is “feeling the Bern....   Oct 6 2017, 11:03 PM
RickS   I live literally live across the river from Bernie...   Oct 26 2017, 09:14 AM
GeorgeRud   Ben’s exchangers and oil tanks will fit right in...   Oct 7 2017, 02:32 PM
davehg   Good parts day today! Ben’s oil tank arrived...   Oct 18 2017, 10:44 PM
mb911   Thats great news.. I was able to find someone now ...   Oct 19 2017, 05:35 AM
JOEPROPER   Thats great news.. I was able to find someone now...   Oct 19 2017, 08:07 AM
mb911   Thats great news.. I was able to find someone no...   Oct 19 2017, 09:54 AM
JOEPROPER   [quote name='JOEPROPER' post='2539322' date='Oct ...   Oct 19 2017, 10:06 AM
jcambo7   :wttc: I’m in Graham a little south of you. If...   Oct 19 2017, 09:49 AM
davehg   Got a bunch of goodie boxes from PMB today! Ca...   Oct 25 2017, 09:49 PM
davehg   I went to SoCal and had a chance to play with my b...   Nov 13 2017, 01:52 PM
davehg   It's been raining parts lately - Appbiz sent o...   Dec 11 2017, 02:37 PM
mb911   Awesome.. You should have heat exchangers by now a...   Dec 11 2017, 02:49 PM
davehg   Woohoo!! I finally have a roller! Fro...   Dec 16 2017, 11:00 PM
davehg   Long time since I last updated. I brought the 2.7 ...   Jan 19 2018, 12:33 AM
jd74914   Decided now is the time to go Twin Plug. I am hav...   Jan 15 2019, 10:23 AM
davehg   Too late now - I've already purchased a modi...   Jan 15 2019, 12:06 PM
Lucky9146   Too late now - I've already purchased a mod...   Jan 15 2019, 12:57 PM
mepstein   The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the cha...   Jan 19 2018, 07:37 AM
davehg   The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the ch...   Jan 19 2018, 12:48 PM
mepstein   The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the c...   Jan 19 2018, 01:05 PM
tygaboy   Off topic but I have a buddy looking for a Z4M Cou...   Jan 19 2018, 12:04 PM
mb911   Dave here is a teaser for you..   Jan 20 2018, 04:41 PM
davehg   Another update. Car is back at Bernie’s and Rich...   Jan 15 2019, 12:29 AM
davehg   Engine back from Ollie’s. Case was media blasted...   Jan 15 2019, 12:46 AM
PanelBilly   So many great looking parts. The engine is just ar...   Jan 15 2019, 09:45 AM
davehg   So much work has been done since my last post. Her...   Feb 2 2020, 09:26 PM
davehg   Distributor and cap installed, and engine finished...   Feb 2 2020, 09:41 PM
rgalla9146   Beautiful work. Where did you source the distrib...   Feb 3 2020, 10:51 AM
davehg   Beautiful work. Where did you source the distri...   Feb 3 2020, 08:43 PM
Mark Henry   Beautiful work. Where did you source the distri...   Feb 3 2020, 01:14 PM
campbellcj   [quote name='rgalla9146' post='2782745' date='Feb...   Jan 18 2022, 11:39 AM
brant   [quote name='rgalla9146' post='2782745' date='Fe...   Jan 18 2022, 11:48 AM
Mikey914   One of my favorite colors lookin good :first:   Feb 4 2020, 11:05 AM
davehg   Long time since I’ve upgraded the thread. Motor...   Jan 16 2022, 12:31 AM
eric9144   Wooow looking good! :cheer: :drooley:   Jan 17 2022, 12:25 PM
raynekat   I did 914-6 conversion that I just sold last fall ...   Jan 18 2022, 12:59 AM
Jett   I did 914-6 conversion that I just sold last fall...   Jan 18 2022, 09:52 AM
mepstein   I did 914-6 conversion that I just sold last fal...   Jan 18 2022, 10:49 AM
horizontally-opposed   I did 914-6 conversion that I just sold last fall...   Mar 23 2023, 12:45 PM
colingreene   this thread needs updates   Mar 23 2023, 11:04 AM
BillJ   Was curious why twin plug? RS pistons are low com...   Mar 23 2023, 12:39 PM
davehg   Was curious why twin plug? RS pistons are low co...   Nov 11 2023, 03:14 PM
BillJ   Was curious why twin plug? RS pistons are low c...   Nov 11 2023, 11:28 PM
jfort   Love my 2.7 factory six. Crank fired, twin plug. A...   Mar 23 2023, 02:34 PM
rick 918-S   Very nice build. Top shelf :beer2:   Mar 24 2023, 04:22 AM
davehg   Wow, hard to believe I've not updated this thr...   Nov 11 2023, 01:54 PM
davehg   Turning to the transmission, it was completely reb...   Nov 11 2023, 02:03 PM
davehg   For the interior, I struggled on whether to go com...   Nov 11 2023, 02:22 PM
davehg   The moment of truth on the first start up. and m...   Nov 11 2023, 02:38 PM
davehg   A sneak peek at the 74 911, which I'm calling ...   Nov 11 2023, 03:58 PM
Cairo94507   I love this build. :beer2:   Nov 11 2023, 04:34 PM
Root_Werks   What a great build! Really turned out nice. ...   Nov 12 2023, 01:25 PM
TRS63   What a fantastic car and it must be awesome on the...   Nov 14 2023, 10:36 AM
DRPHIL914   Long time since I’ve upgraded the thread. Moto...   Nov 15 2023, 01:42 PM


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