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| Leo Imperial |
 May 22 2005, 11:47 AM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words?  Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None  |
I got a line on a 83' complete front end.
The guy wants $600 for everything. That includes calipers, struts, rotors, aluminum cross member. The A-arm have the bottom mount for the bar and I have a top mount, but I can attach (weld) the bracket on from what I understand. Could I use the master cylinder from this car? Should I bother with the rears also from this car? So this is my situation. I have the cash, but I want to get the right stuff and could save some if I get everything at once. Any advise out there? |
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| MattR |
May 22 2005, 11:57 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
Thats a good deal- $600 for 5 lug suspension and A calipers and aluminum cross member. I'd jump on it.
The sway bar: engman on the board makes sway bar U Tabs As far as master cylinder, I got a 19mm from pelicanparts.com . And the rear calipers on a 911 have no provision for a parking brake, so I think you'de have to go custom on that if you wanted to use the 911 caliper, which some say isnt even necessary. |
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| scotty914 |
May 22 2005, 12:09 PM
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suby torque rules Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 20-July 03 From: maryland, the land of 25 year Member No.: 924 |
i just want to say not having a parking brake sucks, mine handle broke at the wcc and i really miss not having a parking brake. i will be fixing it soon
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| SLITS |
May 22 2005, 12:10 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
"A" arms would have SC style underbody bar mount unless he changed them.
Oops, shoulda carefully read the post! |
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| Leo Imperial |
May 22 2005, 12:15 PM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
Thanks.
Now I think I am going to try and get him down to $500. |
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| Leo Imperial |
May 22 2005, 12:17 PM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
Hey Scott!
Just got off the phone. Got him down to $500. Anyone interested in a steering rack. I don't think I will be using it. |
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| skline |
May 22 2005, 12:17 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
It would work on your car no question. I think 600 is a little high though. I think I would offer him 5 and see if he would take it. I see them all the time for less than that. We are 914 owners, if we start paying high prices for everything, we will be up with the pinky lifters very soon. I got my complete front end for $350.00 shipped. Mine is from a 71 however. The advantage you would have from an 83 is the 3.5 inch brake spacing. You could upgrade to the bigger brakes at any time. If it seems like a good deal to you, then go for it. I would highly suggest you replace the ball joints and tie rods when you install it and the wheel bearings and seals as well. That way you wont have any worries down the road and no questions in your mind if everything is ok. That is what I did and it is a good secure feeling.
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| skline |
May 22 2005, 12:20 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Oh, one more thing to complete your question, the M/C wont work for your car, the 83 had power brakes. Yours does not. Good try though.
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| Series9 |
May 22 2005, 12:22 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
If anyone knows of another set, I need these parts for the TurtleGirl project.
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| Leo Imperial |
May 22 2005, 12:25 PM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
Everything gets replaced.
Powdercoating for thr A-arms and a new set of Mueller Bearings from the WCC. I will post picks of the conversion and install of bearings. I am getting ready to fall into the "Gotta have it ready by the WCC 06" catagory. |
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| Leo Imperial |
May 22 2005, 12:27 PM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
The turtle girl project is moving along to fast as it is!
Every time I see a post on parts i want, you already have them on the way to you. |
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| skline |
May 22 2005, 12:28 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Grind off the round sway bar bushing on the control arm and weld on the U tabs before you get it powder coated. It will save you a lot of grief and look way nicer with everything done. Are you going to do them in black? Or some custom color?
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| Leo Imperial |
May 22 2005, 12:34 PM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
I was thinking of white or orange or black.
The orange is for Lemans Gulf porsche. Gonna put orange stripes on the Olympic blue. Not sure what the corect color code is for the orange. Gotta run. I wanna make sure this guy doesn't change his mind. Cash in hand! |
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| SLITS |
May 22 2005, 12:50 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Uh Oh.....he goin' to the ***gasp*** dark side...pinky lifter territory...... We lost another one (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| TravisNeff |
May 22 2005, 12:55 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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Sounds like you are on the right track Leo. I would leave the rear calipers stock 914 and keep your ebrake. If you need ot change that out later, that will be a little easier since modifying the rear hubs for 5 lug. 19MM master cylinder and ditch the proportioning valve.
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| Verruckt |
May 22 2005, 12:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 716 Joined: 14-July 04 From: Midwest Member No.: 2,348 |
$500 seems kind of high to me. Maybe its because I have a good source? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
Try and wiggle him down even more. OR... Find a place that builds Pcar racers, and see what they want for a "take off" front end. $400 if it's in super shape would be good. |
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| skline |
May 22 2005, 01:00 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
Well, if you have a good source, get a hold of Joe (914RS) and let him know, he is looking for one right now. |
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| Verruckt |
May 22 2005, 01:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 716 Joined: 14-July 04 From: Midwest Member No.: 2,348 |
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| neo914-6 |
May 22 2005, 01:07 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Leo,
I may be wrong but you can use your A-arms with the 911 struts but you would lose the larger 911 t-bars. Sound like you're halfway there. What are you going to do on the rears? That takes more orchestration with the hubs/calipers/stub axles/axles/ebrake... Easiest/least expensive/least prefered is adapters. The next is drilled hubs for 5 lug. Then widened stock calipers. Then mostly 911/914-6 LMK when you get powder coating, maybe we can get a volume discount. |
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| Eric_Shea |
May 22 2005, 02:46 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Sell the steering rack for $40-50
Sell the aluminum crossbar for $125 on the PP911 board. Sell the underbody bar for around $25.00 (if it's a 20mm... 74-78 911 guys usually have 18mm and it would be an upgrade) Now you've got yourself a $300.00 front end. Not bad. You'd be a good candidate for a V-Caliper (that felix eluded to) and a T fitting with that system. V-Caliper Thread I can help you out if you need hubs too... |
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