914-6 GT oil cooler set up install and prototyping thread. |
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914-6 GT oil cooler set up install and prototyping thread. |
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Feb 19 2019, 04:45 PM
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Martin,
Is your dog ear reinforcing strut fixed in place or removable? |
Martin Baker |
Feb 19 2019, 05:05 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Martin, Is your dog ear reinforcing strut fixed in place or removable? Its welded in. I have it both my race cars. Roger Hamlin of Hamlin Fabrication recommended the brace, to prevent "toe out" during braking. He told me the car twist around back there it will actually change the suspension geometry enough to cause un- commanded direction changes! He has a shop at Sears Point, and is a good guy to know. Roger was a fabricator on the 1979 Red Roof Inn 935 Team. When he recommended it, little hard to say no. He's been involved with many makes/models and is a wealth of knowledge. One of those guys who doesn't need to advertise. It has a doubler on the forward inner longitudinal, where its welded and dove tailed/welded to the dog ear. Very simple. MB Attached image(s) |
Martin Baker |
Feb 20 2019, 07:42 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
More parts arrived today. I was able to fit one of the two lines. I'm dropping the car tomorrow at Mike Tolle's shop to have the hardline finished....really looking forward to hear this thing run again. Also for what it's worth the black and green hose comes from Parker's Transportation catalog. 22 mm or 7/8 inside diameter.
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Martin Baker |
Feb 21 2019, 10:53 AM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Here is the hose for those who may be interested...213-16 is the correct P/N for this application. Its actually an air brake line, but has multiple uses..
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mb911 |
Feb 21 2019, 11:33 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,825 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I like that hose.. Very nice..
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Martin Baker |
Feb 21 2019, 11:40 AM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks Ben.
This is from the Parker Catalog as well. Same dimensions, no internal steel mesh. Weighs a little less. Every ounce counts right! P/N 293-16 MB https://www.hoseandfittingsetc.com/product/hose/293-hose And the 22MM Steel Braided from NEWCO. https://newcoproducts.com/index.php?route=p...product_id=1435 |
Martin Baker |
Feb 23 2019, 02:22 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Picked up the car from Mike last night, here are the final two lines, just have to get them crimped. Finding someone who will crimp these lines is nearly impossible. No one in the city of Sacramento that I've been able to find will do it. The reason being it's a Parker hose and a Cohline fitting. I'm sure liability is the issue. One guy at the Parker dealership explained to me how these two should not even be put together because no specifications exist to get a correct crimp. Hope he's wrong...
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Martin Baker |
Feb 23 2019, 02:27 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Here is a shot of the whole mess hanging with lines temporarily connected...so now I will box them up and send them back to Elephant to be crimped. About a week process. While they're out I'm going to flush the oil tank just to make sure there's no junk in it and new filter and oil is waiting...
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Cairo94507 |
Feb 23 2019, 04:06 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,734 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
The hose and fittings look beautiful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Martin Baker |
Feb 23 2019, 05:44 PM
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I just heard I sold my cars! Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 290 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks, I appreciate that. This is no concour car. I don't want it to be, but when I dive it down into turn 11 at Sears Point I just want it to be safe and reliable...
Building the mock up of the front cooler duct. I can see these being a little different from car to car based on how high you install Ben's inlet duct. It places the cooler slightly higher than the factory. Mainly because the cooler is much larger than the factory 906 cooler. Once the car is running again I'm going to take it back to Mike and he will build the shroud. I'm going to use clip on Nut plates to attach to the car, for access to the cooler. Also have to weld up the holes in the front trunk where the old oil line passed through... MB Attached thumbnail(s) |
mb911 |
Mar 10 2020, 08:01 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,825 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Updating this a bit. I have been working on the car a bit again.. I have been working on solutions that will work with the PMS ot Naroscape mounts as neither of those mounts work with a stock style scavenge line. I decided to use a AN hose but something that looks retro. I may still have these made out of Cohline but for now this is where I am at.
Notice the fire sleeve was spit balling. I am going to use adel clamps so the hose will be in a safe location. |
mb911 |
Mar 10 2020, 08:02 AM
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mb911 |
Mar 10 2020, 08:02 AM
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sixnotfour |
Mar 10 2020, 11:06 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,422 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Early 911s went up over the top of trans with a soft line... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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mb911 |
Mar 10 2020, 11:07 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,825 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Early 911s went up over the top of trans with a soft line... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Thats not a bad idea.. Might try that. |
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Mar 10 2020, 11:47 AM
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There is some good info here: https://www.elephantracing.com/porsche/911/...il-lines-hoses/
Even though it's for for 911's the basic principles are there. |
mb911 |
Mar 10 2020, 11:49 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,825 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
There is some good info here: https://www.elephantracing.com/porsche/911/...il-lines-hoses/ Even though it's for for 911's the basic principles are there. Thanks.. I have that all figured out.. Just trying to figure out the scavenge so it works for everyone. |
IronHillRestorations |
Mar 10 2020, 12:35 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
On at least two cars I've converted to a 6, I used all flex line and routed the scavenge line toward the rear, then curved it forward to the T-stat/cooler/tank
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mb911 |
Mar 11 2020, 08:41 AM
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Luke M |
Apr 18 2020, 10:04 AM
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Ben this is what I pm'd you about. A set up like this but with the lines running into the front wheel housing then into the trunk.
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