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Brake bleeding made simple..., Never a bummer again! |
Trekkor |
Jun 24 2005, 02:54 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Here it is, the moment you've been waiting for.
You'll spend more time taking the wheels off and on, if you do this! Install Speedbleeders. Put 10' long clear vinyl tube over the bottom bleeder on the right rear. Drape hose into brake reservoir after flushing system and secure with a zip tie. Crack Speedbleeder 1/4 turn and pump until you see the bubles stop going by. Tighten speed bleeder and move to upper bleeder. Fold hose over on itself and secure with a clamp between calipers to keep the prime in the hose and avoid making a mess. Repeat for left rear, right front and left front. This is *TOO* easy. KT Attached image(s) |
Aaron Cox |
Jun 24 2005, 02:56 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
ummm... why are you using the BOTTOM bleeder...
air rises you know (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
Part Pricer |
Jun 24 2005, 02:59 PM
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Believe everything I post Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,825 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Danbury, CT Member No.: 35 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Air is lighter than brake fluid.
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Trekkor |
Jun 24 2005, 03:01 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
After the fluid starts going into the reservoir, stop and top it off with about 4 onces of brake fluid.
This will be the last time you will even have to check the level again during this process. Every pump puts *exactly* the same amount back in the resi. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) KT Attached image(s) |
Trekkor |
Jun 24 2005, 03:08 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
The long hose will reach all valves and pass by the drivers's door so you can watch the bubbles stop.
Bleed off *all* the valves or you *will* have *some* air left in there. Why not spend the extra five minutes and save yourself the headache of having to do this all over again beacuse your pedal is still mushy. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) KT Attached image(s) |
Trekkor |
Jun 24 2005, 03:12 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Clamp it!
When you are all done, just throw away the hose if you're worried about making a mess or damaging your paint the next time around. The hose is about $1.50. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) KT Attached image(s) |
Dr Evil |
Jun 24 2005, 03:14 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I wondered if that would work, but was always in too much of a hurry to try it. Thanks, KT (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) I need to do my whole system this weekend.
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Part Pricer |
Jun 24 2005, 03:17 PM
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Believe everything I post Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,825 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Danbury, CT Member No.: 35 |
This thread should be in the Classic section. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
nocones |
Jun 24 2005, 03:27 PM
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Sportscar lunatic Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 17-June 04 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 2,220 |
This is how I bleed my motorcycle brakes when I'm too lazy to pull them of and bench-bleed. Nice firm lever every time.
Thanks Trekkor |
McMark |
Jun 24 2005, 03:57 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
BLEED ALL NIPPLES. As Trekkor said, skipping some saves you 5 minutes and could leave you with mushy brakes. I used to skip them and it never worked. Now I'll never skip one again.
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Trekkor |
Jun 24 2005, 08:09 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
All done. Easy. Perfect. The first time.
If you bleed the bottom's first, " I believe ", it will get a lot of the air out. When you go to the top, the fluid has already swirled a bit inside the caliper putting the air bubble in place to escape when you pull the trigger. Hope you liked the show. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) KT |
TravisNeff |
Jun 24 2005, 08:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Nice writeup and process there Trekkor. Next time I dive into brakes I am gonna do the same thing.
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TimT |
Jun 24 2005, 08:15 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Trekkors method is a good one, as a nother example on calipers that have 3 bleed nipples, you bleed, bottom inside, top inside, top outside.
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Joe Bob |
Jun 24 2005, 08:36 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
I love to skip in the rain, tweek nipples and splash in puddles.... |
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qa1142 |
Jun 25 2005, 08:07 AM
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Whiplash Group: Members Posts: 1,514 Joined: 1-June 04 From: Lake Zurich, Illinois Member No.: 2,140 |
You really don't want to do it this way
1) moisture - need to change the fluid 2) heat - need to change the fluid buy a power bleeder ~$45 use good fluid Dump the old stuff If you change from blue to gold you can see when system is FLUSHED Keep you ride happy! |
jim912928 |
Jun 25 2005, 08:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'm also not sure you want to do this. Alot of the brake fluid (remember what it looks like when it's coming out)....will have little air bubbles within the brake fluid if you already have air in the lines. Seems like you'd be putting air back into the brake lines via all the imbedded bubbles?
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Joe Bob |
Jun 25 2005, 08:16 AM
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I agree with you on 2 outta three..... Toss the old stuff, use blue-->gold--->blue---->gold.....but not on the power bleeder. They just seem to be a bitch to use and in my experience the power bleeders are the way to go. |
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Trekkor |
Jun 25 2005, 09:01 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE after flushing system Opening post...Always read the opening post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) After the fluid is flushed, I've read and heard and seen people going through 2,4 and 8 quarts of fluid before they still aren't happy. This is my way, take or leave it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) KT |
Joe Bob |
Jun 25 2005, 09:31 AM
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If you replace calipers or lines you WILL burn thru a lot of fluid before all the air is out. On a regular maintenance purge....less than a quart is the norm....or a liter if it's ATE Blue/Gold. It's a unique idea to run the drain line back to the rez, but have you ever looked at fluid that came out of a bleeder valve? |
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Trekkor |
Jun 25 2005, 09:51 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I have seen the fluid...Read "my fluid" at Streets of Willow. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)
My process only works after the system has been flushed or the fluid is still new. I rebuilt the calipers a few weeks back and put all new Motul in there. Yesterday I finished the brake lines. It would be insane to throw away the 3-4 qts to get all the air out. BTW, don't most techs recommend flushing every two years or so? New fluid is relevant. KT |
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