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> What kind of Power Improvements did you see after Conversions?
9144me2enjoy
post Aug 24 2019, 05:21 PM
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There has been all kinds of engine swaps into the Base 914s (Porsche Aircooled 6 cyls-2.0L 2.2L 2.4L 2.7L 3.0L 3.2L 3.6L) along with a large range of Subaru Conversions and LS1 engines, SBC, any other conversions, along with 2056 builds etc. I’m sure a lot of people besides myself would like to see some performance specs after these conversions were completed (0-60mph 0-100mph, 1/4 mile, roll on performance) along with transmission changes and estimated cost for conversion.

Example: Upgraded to 2056cc build (Fats Performance), 125-130hp, dual 40 carbs, cam etc., headers, stock 901 side shift trans. With Rennshift Shifter, 911 suspension conversion. 0-60 6.5 seconds. 1/4 mile about 90 mph. Cost for drivetrain including trans rebuilt approx $10,000.00 in 2015.
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post Aug 24 2019, 11:25 PM
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Well I have two conversions under my belt so let me throw my input out there..

Base engine was a 2.0 with FI that ran poorly. I had 75whp.


Next I did a $3k rebuild and SBC V8 conversion. This was done on a 16 year olds budget working at Taco Bell....
Mild build, made 240whp and 290wtq. Too much torque for the chassis in relationship to the power. Biggest issue was keeping it cool. I loved the V8 sound and played around with the V8 for about 10 years. I never made it reliable enough for me to really drive it. So that lead to my next conversion.


After daily driving an Audi A4 that I modified with a big turbo I really liked the engine a Lot. It had great MPG and a fantastic powerband. So after doing some research I decided to make the 914 something it wasn't. A potential daily car. And with that I wanted all the comforts as well as an engine that could be driven easily as well as something that could be driven both in spirit and anger. That led me to do an Audi 1.8turbo swap. I've never fully built a motor so I said let's do it and out way more money into the build than I needed. I could have done this for about 4k comfortably but I spent about 10k. You can read more about it in my signature.
Anyways numbers. On low boost it's 250whp. On medium low boost it's 285whp. Keep in mind the setup is about 150lbs lighter than the V8. I will say that I still haven't pumped it up yet as I've been going through a lot of teething issues, but over the next few years I'll keep pumping the boost up, I should be able to get 400whp as is with good gas. If I put cams and an intake manifold on it that number should be able to grow to 500whp.

Is it fast? You bet. Faster than the V8? Yes, but only over 4k. But probably the biggest thing is it feels really analog. The turbo noises and engine sounds are extremely apparent and so distinct. The turbo and associated bits itself has about 10 district sounds that I can pick up. One of the reasons for me to go with such a small motor and big turbo was so that I can run low boost and it be quick, take it in the canyons and be pretty comfortable and safe. Then when I really wanted to GO I can turn up the boost and be right there with the big boys.

No drag times or whatnot. I do have an autox vid. Traction is a big issue on a dirty low speed autox, so I'm constantly on and off the throttle. This is boost on the lowest setting. 7psi. Note, prepare for turbo noises..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXLC59RiHe8
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9144me2enjoy   What kind of Power Improvements did you see after Conversions?   Aug 24 2019, 05:21 PM
thelogo   Big /4 5k dollar engine :Qarl: Webbers headers...   Aug 24 2019, 06:08 PM
drem914   Big /4 5k 4K dollar engine :Qarl: Webbers super...   Aug 30 2019, 08:50 PM
80’s old school   :popcorn: I’m interested too!   Aug 24 2019, 06:09 PM
mepstein   2 - 3.2 conversions and one 3.3 suby conversion. L...   Aug 24 2019, 06:27 PM
worn   2 - 3.2 conversions and one 3.3 suby conversion. ...   Aug 24 2019, 09:25 PM
9144me2enjoy   Mepstein how do you compare the 3.2 vs the Suby 3....   Aug 24 2019, 07:45 PM
mepstein   Mepstein how do you compare the 3.2 vs the Suby 3...   Aug 24 2019, 08:36 PM
80’s old school   I took a 1.7 with Weber 40’s out. Put in a 1.8...   Aug 24 2019, 08:09 PM
9144me2enjoy   Impressive builds   Aug 24 2019, 08:52 PM
SirAndy   0-60 < 4s ... :burnout:   Aug 24 2019, 09:09 PM
76-914   0-60 < 4s ... :burnout: Your exactly 1/2 sec...   Aug 25 2019, 01:42 PM
SirAndy   [quote name='SirAndy' post='2741366' date='Aug 24...   Aug 25 2019, 02:57 PM
mepstein   [quote name='SirAndy' post='2741366' date='Aug 2...   Aug 25 2019, 03:01 PM
SirAndy   I think I remember reading g that Andy purchased h...   Aug 25 2019, 03:31 PM
horizontally-opposed   And you get water in your car even when it doesn...   Aug 25 2019, 06:05 PM
Superhawk996   Volvo 240 > Subaru Outback > Toyota Prius ...   Aug 25 2019, 07:03 PM
SirAndy   And you get water in your car even when it doesn...   Aug 26 2019, 12:08 AM
horizontally-opposed   That list is frighteningly accurate And since w...   Aug 26 2019, 10:28 AM
rick 918-S   [quote name='SirAndy' post='2741526' date='Aug 25...   Aug 26 2019, 04:19 AM
Chris914n6   My Nissan 3.0L v6 is 190hp & 205tq stock, with...   Aug 24 2019, 09:35 PM
pploco   It’s not quite the same, but I had a 2.0 legacy ...   Aug 24 2019, 09:40 PM
9144me2enjoy   This is great feedback, especially for forum membe...   Aug 24 2019, 09:52 PM
ConeDodger   Hasn’t been mentioned but I’d drive my 3.2 con...   Aug 24 2019, 10:06 PM
767driver   Nice car ConeDodger!!!   Aug 25 2019, 09:12 PM
Tdskip   Hasn’t been mentioned but I’d drive my 3.2 co...   Dec 3 2019, 10:57 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='2741381' date='Aug...   Dec 3 2019, 09:02 PM
Andyrew   Well I have two conversions under my belt so let m...   Aug 24 2019, 11:25 PM
mb911   Sound and feel is one of the biggest things that m...   Aug 25 2019, 07:22 AM
Coondog   Here’s the best comparison of a 2.0 vs a 3.2   Aug 25 2019, 07:52 AM
80’s old school   Here’s the best comparison of a 2.0 vs a 3.2 ...   Aug 25 2019, 10:39 AM
Superhawk996   Here’s the best comparison of a 2.0 vs a 3.2 ...   Aug 25 2019, 11:00 AM
cali914   Here’s the best comparison of a 2.0 vs a 3.2 ...   Aug 28 2019, 09:36 PM
Cairo94507   Andrew - That was a great video. Your car sounded...   Aug 25 2019, 09:34 AM
Carl La Fong   I currently drive a 2.2 liter type IV that produce...   Aug 25 2019, 10:29 AM
9144me2enjoy   Andrew impressive video of the A4, Conedodger I’...   Aug 25 2019, 10:42 AM
Superhawk996   Since I'm just in one of those moods, here is ...   Aug 25 2019, 11:06 AM
horizontally-opposed   Went from a tired "Question Liter" Type ...   Aug 25 2019, 12:03 PM
mepstein   I think the ultimate conversion "kit" wo...   Aug 25 2019, 12:56 PM
9144me2enjoy   I would gladly give you your money back! Smile   Aug 25 2019, 04:50 PM
rick 918-S   :assimilate: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.ph...   Aug 26 2019, 03:39 AM
9144me2enjoy   Rick great write up with bottom line truth!   Aug 26 2019, 08:00 AM
VaccaRabite   I went from a 75 2.0 to a 2056 with just about eve...   Aug 26 2019, 10:31 AM
9144me2enjoy   Not seeing much from the SBC or LS1 builds or Dies...   Aug 26 2019, 02:19 PM
PatrickB   Not seeing much from the SBC or LS1 builds or Die...   Aug 26 2019, 02:38 PM
Rand   This was quite an adventure. Well, still proves th...   Aug 26 2019, 02:35 PM
914dave   I’ve owned a tired stock 2.0. , a rebuilt 2056 w...   Aug 26 2019, 02:52 PM
9144me2enjoy   Patrick which Diesel engine did you use and did yo...   Aug 26 2019, 02:56 PM
PatrickB   Patrick which Diesel engine did you use and did y...   Aug 26 2019, 07:37 PM
9144me2enjoy   Patrick 1.9T setup. I’ve seen a few attempts wit...   Aug 26 2019, 08:11 PM
Chi-town   Kent's EZ30D car on a sticky tire is probably ...   Aug 26 2019, 09:02 PM
9144me2enjoy   The EZ30D and the EZ36R are definitely up for the ...   Aug 26 2019, 09:38 PM
Robarabian   0-60 under 6 seconds Haven't done a true 1/4 ...   Aug 26 2019, 09:48 PM
9144me2enjoy   Robarabian when you choose the EJ20T did you consi...   Aug 26 2019, 10:22 PM
Robarabian   Robarabian when you choose the EJ20T did you cons...   Aug 27 2019, 10:28 PM
9144me2enjoy   Robarabian when you choose the EJ20T did you con...   Aug 27 2019, 10:41 PM
Jonathan Livesay   Robarabian when you choose the EJ20T did you con...   Aug 27 2019, 10:57 PM
Chi-town   The EJ20 is a far better engine than the EJ25 as f...   Aug 26 2019, 10:39 PM
9144me2enjoy   Great food for thought! Thanks   Aug 26 2019, 10:49 PM
EdwardBlume   More power, but more weight. I think the car bal...   Aug 26 2019, 10:58 PM
Larmo63   How do you explain for the tenth time what doublin...   Aug 26 2019, 11:43 PM
Chi-town   There are these words $15k vs $5k :lol:   Aug 27 2019, 08:19 AM
Larmo63   There are these words $15k vs $5k :lol:...   Aug 27 2019, 08:41 AM
amfab   [quote name='Chi-town' post='2742004' date='...   Aug 27 2019, 10:27 AM
PatrickB   [quote name='Chi-town' post='2742004' date=...   Aug 27 2019, 10:56 AM
pploco   My first subaru turbo conversion cost me about ...   Aug 27 2019, 11:06 AM
raynekat   2.7 Porsche MFI motor putting out 230hp....redline...   Aug 27 2019, 05:37 PM
9144me2enjoy   That’s a great 911 air cooled motor, love the re...   Aug 27 2019, 05:48 PM
iamchappy   More than i could of ever imagined....   Aug 27 2019, 09:28 PM
9144me2enjoy   Chappy thats scary! Impressive build off of a ...   Aug 27 2019, 10:35 PM
9144me2enjoy   Great comparison on the 2.5 914 and the 2.0 WRX ST...   Aug 28 2019, 08:58 AM
thelogo   Great comparison on the 2.5 914 and the 2.0 WRX S...   Aug 28 2019, 02:27 PM
worn   Great comparison on the 2.5 914 and the 2.0 WRX ...   Aug 29 2019, 07:54 PM
pploco   :idea: That's an awfully specific number...   Aug 28 2019, 02:54 PM
mb911   :idea: That's an awfully specific numbe...   Aug 28 2019, 04:08 PM
thelogo   :idea: That's an awfully specific numbe...   Aug 28 2019, 06:06 PM
mepstein   :idea: That's an awfully specific numb...   Aug 28 2019, 07:07 PM
Andyrew   [quote name='thelogo' post='2742318' date='Aug 28...   Aug 28 2019, 07:31 PM
SirAndy   Brakes don’t deal with power, they relate to mas...   Aug 28 2019, 08:13 PM
rick 918-S   [quote name='Andyrew' post='2742343' date='Aug 28...   Aug 28 2019, 09:40 PM
thelogo   [quote name='thelogo' post='2742318' date='Aug 28...   Aug 28 2019, 09:09 PM
mepstein   What’s great about the 914 get togethers,is you ...   Aug 28 2019, 05:02 PM
cali914   What’s great about the 914 get togethers,is you...   Aug 28 2019, 09:44 PM
Chi-town   Great comparison on the 2.5 914 and the 2.0 WRX ...   Aug 28 2019, 05:04 PM
JmuRiz   [quote name='thelogo' post='2742282' date='Aug 28...   Aug 30 2019, 07:09 PM
Coondog   If you want your car to stop faster, an intuitive ...   Aug 28 2019, 09:40 PM
cali914   I have owned a small block 355 iron block aluminum...   Aug 28 2019, 09:53 PM
9144me2enjoy   Finally a LS lover surfaces! Mean machine...th...   Aug 29 2019, 08:21 AM
John   First swap was a 3.2 with 901 in 1991. (pre-inter...   Aug 29 2019, 02:40 PM
9144me2enjoy   I’ve always felt like upgrading to a Aircooled 3...   Aug 29 2019, 08:53 PM
9144me2enjoy   Thanks again for all the post, great information f...   Aug 31 2019, 12:55 PM
whitetwinturbo   ............there are a few SBC meth-heads out the...   Dec 3 2019, 10:49 AM


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