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914-4 GTK - K is for Kompressor - Bringing a supercharged 914 back to life, Body and interior work... |
poorsche914 |
Sep 27 2019, 08:25 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,089 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
I first laid eyes on this 914 3-1/2 years ago and told the PO "I want this car". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
Things finally fell into place and this beauty now sits in my driveway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvUZ_WM_NEg SPECS: Factory GT flares 914-6 suspension, brakes, steering column and ignition 2.0L with Supercharger (Jay Richardson built in the late '80s) Twin plug heads (not connected at this point) 15" Fuchs - I believe they are 7" & 8" This 914 has been discussed here and here in the past. If you have any information concerning this car (VIN 4732922153) or the supercharged engine, please contact me via PM. More pics to come. Delivered tonight at dusk. Has some rough spots from sitting for a few years but will be a fun project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
djway |
Oct 22 2019, 09:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 16-October 15 From: Riverside Member No.: 19,266 Region Association: Southern California |
Have you considered welding in an O2 bung and use it with a wideband meter? It really helped me repair my old fuel injection when I needed to set the mixture.
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poorsche914 |
Oct 22 2019, 10:14 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,089 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Have you considered welding in an O2 bung and use it with a wideband meter? It really helped me repair my old fuel injection when I needed to set the mixture. I actually just read about someone doing that when tuning their carb on a VW Bus. It really helped to dial in the jetting. I need to investigate that further. Thanks for the suggestion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
poorsche914 |
Nov 1 2019, 05:22 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,089 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
UPDATE: noted the jet sizes for the old carb and replicated in the new carb. Last jet came in today. Installed, set the timing, and drove down the road. Ran good but wasn't brave enough to wind it out too high. 4000 or so was tops. Only have two gears and streets are residential/rural. Plus, didn't want to get too far from home in case it quit running for some reason!
Next step is to get the shift linkage sorted out. Unfortunately, my weekend is filled with other "stuff" to do so probably won't get to it for a while. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
914rrr |
Dec 10 2019, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,830 Joined: 1-July 03 From: Knoxville, TN Member No.: 874 Region Association: South East States |
Congrats on your purchase. This was one of my 914 magazine dream cars (anybody remember the blue Bond centerfold 914/6 with the the wide IMSA bodywork?). I actually met Jay Richardson around 2005 while living in the Knoxville, TN area. His dad Maurice was my realtor and told me he had a Porsche too. He proceeded to bring over his 911 Turbo that Jay built ( how I met Jay). He let me drive it. OMG, it was an absolute monster, and a bucket list moment for me. He may still be in the Knoxville area.
I can speak to the challenges of adding a turbo or supercharger to a 914... and getting it to run properly. I purchased a turbo'd 914 many years ago from the estate of the late owner / builder Ed Atkinson. It was a 73 2.0 with a Crown / Rayjay turbo kit that had almost every period available add-on component thrown at it... custom cam, stock D-jet injection with rising rate fuel pressure regulator, Hobbs switch that switched on the cold start injector for boost enrichment, (small) custom intercooler, Ak Miller wastegate (OG Crown turbo kit didn't have one, LOL), cockpit adjustable static and boost retard ignition timing, Permatune, cockpit adjustable boost valve, old school alcohol / water injection (literally a windshield washer pump blowing the mixture into the turbo intake via a windshield washer nozzle), custom 2.5" Corvair Turbo exhaust plumbing, external oil cooler, Turbo Corvair air cleaner and muffler, etc. I purchased the car off Ebay. The test drive hooked me, relatively flat flat torque..until it hit boost. Then the torque curve went vertical!! Trouble was, once it warmed up, it started detonating like crazy. I bought the old "How to Turbo" book, read it cover to cover, endlessly surfed VW and Corvair web forums, contacted everybody I could, including Jake Raby, Maltese Falcon (thanks Marty!), Ak Miller (RIP), Peter Dawe (friend of Ed the builder), pbanders, the locash racing boys, etc. I owned it (twice), tinkered with it for months on end, and never got it to run right / not detonate. After finding out that the turbo / exhaust plumbing was rusting out, the turbo oil return was compromised, the TB was a PITA to get to / adjust, etc. etc. I removed the turbo bits and returned it to stock. Here were my take-ways from my experiences: Stock D-Jet doesn't work well with a turbo. The system is meant to see vacuum, not boost, unless you somehow modify the now rare / $$$ MPS. Thanks pbanders! The alky-water system wasn't working and I took it off. In retrospect, I think this was THE key to making the whole system work. You may also need a way to retard the timing during boost. I think MS can do that, as well as boost enrichment. My 914 was restored to a high standard by the PO. It was actually worth more stock than with the turbo. The vintage Crown / Rayjay / Corvair turbo and other bits were easy to sell for (crazy) $$$, people were actually fighting over them. Other add-ons sold for $$$ as well..Scheel seats, SEV Marchall dual element headlamps, etc. It's crazy to think that someone purchased a $4000-ish 914, added a $1200 turbo kit (then extensively modified it!), a $1000 pair of seats, $200 headlights, added Koni's, custom sway bars, etc...., all in 70's $$$!!!. After talking at length with builders of VW aircooled and carb'd turbo cars, (even American V8's) it's really difficult to get one to run right, not run hot etc. FI is the best way to go. If you want to give the carb route a go, check with the aircooled VW drag guys or Turbo Corvair guys. They've been doing it for decades and have (most) of the bugs worked out. Nothing beats telling someone at a C&C / P-car GTG that you owned a turbo'd 914 with D-Jet FI (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
poorsche914 |
Dec 10 2019, 08:37 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,089 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Congrats on your purchase. This was one of my 914 magazine dream cars... Thank you, @914rrr I have the issue of VW&P you speak of.QUOTE I actually met Jay Richardson... He may still be in the Knoxville area. A friend of mine who knows Jay's wife says they live in Oak Ridge. I'd really like to talk to him about this engine and 914.QUOTE I can speak to the challenges of adding a turbo or supercharger to a 914... I removed the turbo bits and returned it to stock. I am going to try Megasquirt and see if I can get it to run properly that way. If not, then I will remove the supercharger and run the "stock" build with twin-plug heads.QUOTE Here were my take-ways from my experiences: I believe this setup needs MS or some other tuneable FI system.... I think MS can do that, as well as boost enrichment. QUOTE My 914 was restored to a high standard by the PO... This 914 was once a race car but restored back to street dress by one of the POs. Though not perfect (it sat outside for 3 years), it has not only the factory steel GT flares but a lot of 914-6 bits.QUOTE Nothing beats telling someone at a C&C / P-car GTG that you owned a turbo'd 914 with D-Jet FI (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yeah, or a supercharged 914! I just want to feel that boost at least once (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I haven't done anything to this 914 for the past several weeks. Last thing I did was check compression: 130+ on 1, 3, 4 but just over 110 on #2 Pretty sure #2 was the one that had been seized from sitting so long. I am going to pull the engine and have whatever damage is there repaired. In the meantime, I plan to pull the Raby 2056 from my LE and install it in the GT just so I can put some miles on that car. The LE needs a rustoration to bring it back to its stock form, anyway, so it is a good time to park it for a long while (it's been my daily driver for most of the past 8 or so years) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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