Really nice six for sale over on BAT, Market value |
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Really nice six for sale over on BAT, Market value |
gereed75 |
Oct 1 2019, 07:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
Although I agree that the six market is currently flat ( as is the high end 911 market), it does appear to be at least very healthy.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-porsche-914-6-21/ I have not looked critically at the pictures of this car, but it looks really nice and has exceptional documentation Let’s see where it goes |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Oct 1 2019, 08:03 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,835 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
Should go for over 100. Certainly over restored (that is a good thing!!!!!!!) and someone will get an exceptional car with this one. far beyond the normal restored six
Although I agree that the six market is currently flat ( as is the high end 911 market), it does appear to be at least very healthy. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-porsche-914-6-21/ I have not looked critically at the pictures of this car, but it looks really nice and has exceptional documentation Let’s see where it goes |
Cairo94507 |
Oct 1 2019, 08:20 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,734 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Very nicely done indeed. Someone will get a nice Six. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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IronHillRestorations |
Oct 1 2019, 08:56 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I predict $105
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Tbrown4x4 |
Oct 1 2019, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: 13-May 14 From: Port Orchard, WA Member No.: 17,338 Region Association: None |
Looks like he is or was a member here. It's on the VIN list.
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Jamie |
Oct 1 2019, 06:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,025 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Georgetown,KY Member No.: 2,939 Region Association: South East States |
Wow, previous owners have spent a ton of money keeping this six in like new condition! I'd be afraid to drive it and get it dirty! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
SKL1 |
Oct 1 2019, 09:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Like I said in the comment section at BAT, it is almost TOO nice. You'd be paranoid to actually drive it!! But, DAMN it is nice.
Curious if it will hit reserve... |
horizontally-opposed |
Oct 1 2019, 10:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,431 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Looks like a very, very nice car—and is beyond clean. Garage pics bode well, too, as it's pretty clear that this was a very special car to its current owner. Always nice to see that.
Only things that stood out to me as ?? were vinyl adhesion issues with the basketweave on the dash and then the grain on the vinyl on the upper part of the dash (just below the windshield), which looks like the same vinyl is on the backpad, seats, and door panels, too? Was glad to see the engine lid under the grilles painted black, and the front strut towers too. 2.2 S with Solex cams is probably very nice, and built on the original case, too...a kind of invisible upgrade. |
porschetub |
Oct 2 2019, 12:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,697 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Pete,appears the non-original mods to the engine have hurt the value by nothing,I noted the things you pointed out,as a seller I would ditch the rainhats and put a decent air cleaner such as the original supplied with the car,factory air cleaners are very efficient.
Final price will be interesting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) . |
rgalla9146 |
Oct 2 2019, 06:16 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,547 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Beautiful car. Beautiful presentation. Great documentation.
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Mike Fitton |
Oct 2 2019, 07:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Can't believe this 6 is kicking my cars but!
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Dr Evil |
Oct 2 2019, 08:03 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I love how it always ends up that the transmission was ignored, or at least not barely mentioned, "Power is sent to the rear wheels via a five-speed manual transaxle" and that is it. Seems everyone only cares about the engine, but not how the power gets to the ground. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) At least the gear box is clean. Nice car, and I grew up mostly in La Mesa and live a few hours from Findlay. Small world.
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Oct 2 2019, 08:04 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,835 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
The car has the incorrect grained smooth vinyl installed. 71 style naugahyde instead of the german pebble grain. PLUS all upper dash vinyl grains were the same, the smooth 911 style. This cars upper dash is 71 naugahyde
Looks like a very, very nice car—and is beyond clean. Garage pics bode well, too, as it's pretty clear that this was a very special car to its current owner. Always nice to see that. Only things that stood out to me as ?? were vinyl adhesion issues with the basketweave on the dash and then the grain on the vinyl on the upper part of the dash (just below the windshield), which looks like the same vinyl is on the backpad, seats, and door panels, too? Was glad to see the engine lid under the grilles painted black, and the front strut towers too. 2.2 S with Solex cams is probably very nice, and built on the original case, too...a kind of invisible upgrade. |
Jett |
Oct 2 2019, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,637 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The car is amazing car but are the door mirrors correct?
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mepstein |
Oct 2 2019, 09:32 AM
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horizontally-opposed |
Oct 2 2019, 09:43 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Pete,appears the non-original mods to the engine have hurt the value by nothing,I noted the things you pointed out,as a seller I would ditch the rainhats and put a decent air cleaner such as the original supplied with the car,factory air cleaners are very efficient. Final price will be interesting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) . Entirely agree on the engine mods to an other wise original 914-6. Who really wants a 2.0T with 110hp? So I see zero downside to engine mods so long as the engine is built on its original case, the mods are "invisible," and no external oil cooler is required. That makes for a pretty narrow band up to 2.2 S to meet those conditions, but there are a number of nice engines in that range. 2.0 S with short gears, 2.2 E or T (or, for that matter, 2.4T or E?), and 2.2 S. 2.2 S with Solex cams is a great setup, very close to what I have. The Solex cams sacrifice some of the top-end scream for a really nice torque curve—which makes the engine feel a lot bigger than a 2.2. More like a 2.7 or 3.0, bizarrely. Do miss that top-end scream, however… I love how it always ends up that the transmission was ignored, or at least not barely mentioned, "Power is sent to the rear wheels via a five-speed manual transaxle" and that is it. Seems everyone only cares about the engine, but not how the power gets to the ground. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) At least the gear box is clean. Nice car, and I grew up mostly in La Mesa and live a few hours from Findlay. Small world. ^ Too true. People talk about engines endlessly, but the standout feature of the best 914 I have ever driven—from a fun-factor perspective—wasn't its engine...it was its 901 with short gears and LSD. https://bringatrailer.com/2011/11/21/bat-ex...-porsche-914-6/ That gearbox was brilliant on back roads, and I hope to replicate it one day. Wish I knew which gears it had. 71 style naugahyde instead of the german pebble grain. PLUS all upper dash vinyl grains were the same, the smooth 911 style. This cars upper dash is 71 naugahyde So '71 914-6s had this pattern on their vinyl? Reminds me of the vinyl on my Scheel seats, which I don't love but don't hate. Just looks odd to me everywhere... |
horizontally-opposed |
Oct 2 2019, 09:44 AM
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horizontally-opposed |
Oct 2 2019, 09:50 AM
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The car is amazing car but are the door mirrors correct? No. The should be the smaller, right angle ones. Here to learn. The interior rearview mirror looks like a later one, but what's wrong with the driver's side mirror? Always forget whether the right side was optional in period, or merely easy to add (I know the latter is true). |
Dr Evil |
Oct 2 2019, 10:01 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE https://bringatrailer.com/2011/11/21/bat-ex...-porsche-914-6/[/url] That gearbox was brilliant on back roads, and I hope to replicate it one day. Wish I knew which gears it had. Its in the post you listed, " The transmission was rebuilt by Bernie Buschen (Seattle area Porsche expert) with custom short gears (A, F, Ka, Q, X) and a GT torsion limited slip differential. Ive done some of these, not hard. Easier and actually standard gearing in many boxes ia A, F, M, S, X for short gears. X suuuucks on the freeway. |
horizontally-opposed |
Oct 2 2019, 10:16 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,431 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
QUOTE https://bringatrailer.com/2011/11/21/bat-ex...-porsche-914-6/[/url] That gearbox was brilliant on back roads, and I hope to replicate it one day. Wish I knew which gears it had. Its in the post you listed, " The transmission was rebuilt by Bernie Buschen (Seattle area Porsche expert) with custom short gears (A, F, Ka, Q, X) and a GT torsion limited slip differential. Ive done some of these, not hard. Easier and actually standard gearing in many boxes ia A, F, M, S, X for short gears. X suuuucks on the freeway. Dude, many thanks. Note sure how I missed that...and yes, the one gear I would not want to change is my stock 5th, as I'd like to have something for freeway hauls. I suppose that will make the gap to fourth not great, but I can live with that. Again, thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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