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Any one using a high torque starter |
LCOX |
Oct 28 2019, 10:15 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 19-December 09 From: Pinnacle Member No.: 11,148 Region Association: None |
Anyone using an aftermarket high torque starter and if so what brand and where did you get it. Are these starters dependable?
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ClayPerrine |
Oct 28 2019, 10:29 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Anyone using an aftermarket high torque starter and if so what brand and where did you get it. Are these starters dependable? I have run them for more than a decade on Frody and Igor. No issues with them at all, and they cured the hot start problems with Frody. With the Cayman trans in Igor, there is no room for a standard starter, so I will keep running the high torque unit. It turns the 4.0 high compression motor with ease. The brand I use is from IMI, and I got them from Zims. On Elwood, the original 914 starters have been superseded to a new, high speed starter. It works great too. I don't have a part number on it. |
VaccaRabite |
Oct 28 2019, 10:32 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,445 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes. I got mine from Ebay about a 12 years ago (or longer).
With all the problems I've had with my car, the starter has never been one of them. Zach |
02loftsmoor |
Oct 28 2019, 10:49 AM
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SirAndy |
Oct 28 2019, 11:17 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a "Hi-Torque" starter that has been in my car for at least 15 years now.
Never had any issue with it and it has plenty of torque to turn over the 3.6L 10.5:1 engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
SirAndy |
Oct 28 2019, 11:23 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a "Hi-Torque" starter that has been in my car for at least 15 years now. Never had any issue with it and it has plenty of torque to turn over the 3.6L 10.5:1 engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) looks like dis ... |
raynekat |
Oct 28 2019, 11:26 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
i agree that high torque starters are great.
Have had one in a 911 for +20 years with zero problems and currently it's starting a high compression 3.6 engine. Just put one in my 914 with a 2.7MFI engine as well. So far just trouble free starting and it really spins the engine up quickly. Don't know the brand name but I think you're OK with most of them. You'll see some on Ebay and also places like Sierra Madre, etc in the $190-300 range. |
brant |
Oct 28 2019, 11:33 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,625 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The IMI starter is really the one to get
it costs about 2x what the ebay cheapies do they work also but not as well I have both the ebay starters are generic and don't have the right plunge depth on the housing. They require a proper shim to use without the shim... many people have had damage to their flywheels I replaced one for a friend on his 6 the ebay Bendix will push out through the starter ring on the flywheel, so the Bendix gear is only riding on half a tooth of the starter ring eventually it shears teeth off of the starter ring and a new flywheel (dropping the transmission) is the repair. I would recommend paying the 250 price for the right one instead of the 150 price of the ebay units. or making sure you have the correct shim mounted under the cheap starter. my ebay unit is now having a hot start problem on my street car but the 15 year old IMI starter in the race car is not brant |
phillstek |
Oct 28 2019, 04:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 19-May 10 From: Byron Bay, Australia Member No.: 11,741 Region Association: None |
Put one in my car about a month ago after the original failed. Half the cost of the Bosch and turns over the 3.2 with 10.5s twice as fast. Made in Poland. Very pleased with it so far.
Was recommended by a local highly regarded parts importer/ Porsche repairer I’ve dealt with for 40 years. They installed it and offered all options including OEM Porsche at $2000 and the Bosch at $1200. I chose the hi torque at $600 after they told me they’d installed them without issue in hundreds of cars. |
sportlicherFahrer |
Oct 28 2019, 04:56 PM
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Nothing to see here. Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Tacoma, WA Member No.: 3,945 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I bought the IMI-101N in anticipation of a -6 that never happened. Turns my 4 over with no issues, and has for 5 years now. These folks were great to deal with, and I would buy from again. Lowest price I found, and still seems to be at least competitive without doing much digging. Good Vibrations
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Mark Henry |
Oct 29 2019, 08:33 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I've also switched to an IMI Hi Torque.
My old bosch was very slow turnover using the small Odyssey 680 battery on my high CR twinplug /6, it wouldn't even turn over the engine when it was new. It was bad enough of an issue that I was parking on hills. Now with the IMI starter it spins so fast I don't think it takes a full revolution to fire. It's nice knowing it will start, as it often takes 2-3 tries to start my Weber carbed /6 when it's cold. I'm still using the Ford solenoid just because it was already on there. I don't think it's required with the Hi Torque, so next year I'll test to see if it's needed. |
VaccaRabite |
Oct 29 2019, 08:36 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,445 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think that the Ford solenoid is still a good idea, as it takes the strain out of the wire harness and ignition switch. I'm running one on my car.
Zach |
iankarr |
Oct 29 2019, 08:45 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,474 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
The IMI starter is really the one to get it costs about 2x what the ebay cheapies do they work also but not as well I have both the ebay starters are generic and don't have the right plunge depth on the housing. They require a proper shim to use without the shim... many people have had damage to their flywheels brant (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I've seen oddly worn flywheels on those hi torque starters. Need to shim the starter attachment bolts with washers to pull the bendix back and increase contact with the flywheel. |
ClayPerrine |
Oct 29 2019, 01:22 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,474 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I have a "Hi-Torque" starter that has been in my car for at least 15 years now. Never had any issue with it and it has plenty of torque to turn over the 3.6L 10.5:1 engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) looks like dis ... That is the exact same one I use. Two thumbs up! |
jfort |
Oct 29 2019, 01:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,135 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Findlay, OH Member No.: 652 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The IMI starter is really the one to get it costs about 2x what the ebay cheapies do they work also but not as well I have both the ebay starters are generic and don't have the right plunge depth on the housing. They require a proper shim to use without the shim... many people have had damage to their flywheels I replaced one for a friend on his 6 the ebay Bendix will push out through the starter ring on the flywheel, so the Bendix gear is only riding on half a tooth of the starter ring eventually it shears teeth off of the starter ring and a new flywheel (dropping the transmission) is the repair. I would recommend paying the 250 price for the right one instead of the 150 price of the ebay units. or making sure you have the correct shim mounted under the cheap starter. my ebay unit is now having a hot start problem on my street car but the 15 year old IMI starter in the race car is not brant agree about damage too flywheel. just replaced flywheel and installed rebuilt regular starter. damage to flywheel was apparent |
PatrickB |
Oct 29 2019, 05:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-March 17 From: sw ontario Member No.: 20,960 Region Association: Canada |
I have a "Hi-Torque" starter that has been in my car for at least 15 years now. Never had any issue with it and it has plenty of torque to turn over the 3.6L 10.5:1 engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) looks like dis ... That is the exact same one I use. Two thumbs up! Same one I'm using too. Turns over my worn diesel (400 lbs compression) okay unless the engine is really hot.I think the compression is better when the engine is hot, it becomes a slow turn and wonder if it will start. NOT the usual hot start issue, still turning over. |
Root_Werks |
May 19 2021, 11:31 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Older thread with good info. There's a number of HTQ starters to choose from. Googled the part number and it kept coming up with VW T-1 units. Anyone have a decent source for the starter (for example) Andy is using? |
roblav1 |
May 19 2021, 03:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 18-September 12 From: KY Member No.: 14,943 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
IMI 101N is the way to go. Works fantastic on my 6.
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Justinp71 |
May 19 2021, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,583 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
Yes. I got mine from Ebay about a 12 years ago (or longer). With all the problems I've had with my car, the starter has never been one of them. Zach Same here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) It was listed as fitting a porsche 914 when I got mine. |
SirAndy |
May 19 2021, 05:29 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Anyone have a decent source for the starter (for example) Andy is using? https://www.google.com/search?q=Hi-Torque+s...DCA0&uact=5 First two results are for Pelican Parts ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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