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New here and need some help 914/8 Chevy 350 refurbish, Cleaning up and refurbishing 1973 914 - 350 converted car |
Daryl32 |
Mar 20 2020, 04:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Couple more progress pictures.
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Daryl32 |
Mar 20 2020, 04:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
While working on my truck I needed to weld some things to the frame - so I welded up a throttle cable mount for the engine. I modified the Renegade piece for the stock cable. Then I used their idea to make another one for a second cable.
I just could not stop thinking of the position of the carb and the angle it sat in the car at. We added a 5.5 degree angle wedge to level the carb on the engine in the car. Need to get the engine to start without a pump and start the tuning of it. Timing - carb mixtures and ideal speed. Also need to make sure the throttle pedal works with the carb, Meaning flooring it opens the carb ALL the way! Here are some pictures of the throttle cable and stuff. |
Daryl32 |
Mar 20 2020, 05:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Looking at the pictures of the carb I remembered the work in bracing the Renegade water filler.
Also mounted the overflow tank and a piece of aluminum / shelf in the engine bay drivers side. Also replaced all the 1.5" water lines in the whole car. Added 1.5" bent aluminum tubes in the front by the radiator. Bending the rubber hose in the front was causing them to kink and close off. I ending up using one 90 degree piece and one 45 degree piece. |
FL000 |
Mar 20 2020, 07:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 391 Joined: 31-January 12 From: Lancaster, CA Member No.: 14,076 Region Association: Southern California |
I like the tweeter in the vent idea - I made need to copy that idea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Daryl32 |
Mar 21 2020, 08:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
I like the tweeter in the vent idea - I made need to copy that idea (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) The tweeter is just held in by the foam, seems to be a good mount for the little thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Mar 21 2020, 09:05 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,833 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
I have a 327 300 hp in mine, plenty of pulling power and the engine runs perfectly and is actually very cool running. Kept it all stock with points and condenser and the original Holley carb. It idles very smoothly and has INSTANT pickup. Never though of changing the engine to a 350 or anything larger
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Jett |
Mar 21 2020, 09:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,637 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Why don’t 914 V8 builders use fuel injection? Might have better clearance.
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mepstein |
Mar 21 2020, 09:42 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,255 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Why don’t 914 V8 builders use fuel injection? Might have better clearance. Cost and complexity. They are usually looking for easy and cheap. Not all but at least in the past, it was a common reason for the swap. We did an LS swap with FI into a 928 track car. 525HP in a mostly gutted out, track ready car really made it move. It took more time than the owner expected to make it all run and look right. |
Jett |
Mar 21 2020, 09:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,637 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Why don’t 914 V8 builders use fuel injection? Might have better clearance. Cost and complexity. They are usually looking for easy and cheap. Not all but at least in the past, it was a common reason for the swap. We did an LS swap with FI into a 928 track car. 525HP in a mostly gutted out, track ready car really made it move. It took more time than the owner expected to make it all run and look right. Makes sense. The new LS7 in this configuration is expensive but would look cool in a 914. That said, the 928 v8 seems like a better choice if money is not the primary concern. |
Daryl32 |
Mar 21 2020, 06:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
I have a 327 300 hp in mine, plenty of pulling power and the engine runs perfectly and is actually very cool running. Kept it all stock with points and condenser and the original Holley carb. It idles very smoothly and has INSTANT pickup. Never though of changing the engine to a 350 or anything larger Every nice Vette!!!!!!! I have a non-stock 327 (331) in my 65 wagon. |
Daryl32 |
Mar 21 2020, 06:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
@Jett as Mepstein said money, but also these conversions started before the LS motors came out. 327s & 350s were a dime a dozen back then.
This one came to me with the 350 in it just to get back up and running. |
Jett |
Mar 21 2020, 08:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,637 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
@Jett as Mepstein said money, but also these conversions started before the LS motors came out. 327s & 350s were a dime a dozen back then. This one came to me with the 350 in it just to get back up and running. Nice wagon. We have a 67 Nova Wagon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Daryl32 |
Mar 21 2020, 10:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Nice I always liked the 67 Novas! |
Daryl32 |
Apr 6 2020, 12:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Here is a video of the third test drive on the refurbished engine and other stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC35YSgBTtE Now I have to work on a bobble/scoop for over the carburetor. Just no way to get the an air cleaner any lower and keep the intake setup we settled on. Owner decided on performance over stealth. |
FL000 |
Apr 6 2020, 04:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 391 Joined: 31-January 12 From: Lancaster, CA Member No.: 14,076 Region Association: Southern California |
Sounds like it's running good!
The space is limited below the decklid as you mentioned. If you are willing to remove the support channel under the grate it may just fit. I had to do that and go with a thin spacer under the carb. |
Daryl32 |
Apr 16 2020, 10:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Sounds like it's running good! The space is limited below the decklid as you mentioned. If you are willing to remove the support channel under the grate it may just fit. I had to do that and go with a thin spacer under the carb. Thank you for the idea. Have been looking at it and pretty sure it will be coming out tomorrow. I found my oil leak! stupid is as stupid does". I did not put the alternator on the right side on the engine And I did not put bolts in the holes as usual to make them look better. As you can not see the front of the engine when it is in the car. BUT: the top hole is a through hole into the bore for the stock mechanical fuel pump drive shaft. So with not shaft and no bolt in the hole - oil mist was coming out of the hole. And it was dripping also. So I put a nice new gold grade 8 bolt in it like I do for more muscle car engines. Problem solved. Today I finished up the headlight and front blinker wiring, so now just need to put on some weather stripping/molding and put fuses in and see what SMOKES!!!! LOL Getting the headlights out of the car was a long and tedious job. ALL the screws securing the lights to the frames had stripped heads. As well as all four adjusters between the two of them. Had to use vise grips on them at 1/16 to 1/8 turn at a time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Anyway got them out and ran the new wires in place of the old. And got it all back together. NEED THIS BOLT to stop oil from coming out of engine. Attached image(s) |
Daryl32 |
May 1 2020, 10:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
I have been working on the car - down to lots of little tidie up things.
Getting engine cover on - cut off the cross support Mounted rear trunk lid and installed some gas struts to keep it open Pulled Accel coil out of it's big cover and put it back with a stock GM cover Installed some new door seals B piller rear door glass seals trunk seals reinstalled the rear window - it was loose While refitting the rear window I fixed both rear top clamps Installed some of the carpet kit Got the hazard and blinkers to work and more. Two weeks ago I got the head lights working - link to youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX_RLvkssq8&t=35s Drove it around town and down the freeway yesterday to shack it down and see how it fared. So far GREAT! The Davis Craig electric water pump and controller really do a great job of keeping the engine temps down. Also love the feature that runs the water pump and fan for 3 minutes after the car is shut off. you pull up and park with the engine temp at 185 to 195, depending on your drive, and 3 minutes later the temp is 170 or so. Not sure how 914 stock suspension is, but this car with it 911 suspension, brakes and 16" wheels is really stable on the freeway. And with the 350 in it it goes from 40ish to 90ish in 3, 4th or 5th pretty quickly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
Daryl32 |
May 1 2020, 10:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
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Daryl32 |
May 2 2020, 03:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Drove the car about 50 miles today, lots of freeway.
The cooling system is working perfect so far. Davis Craig units all the way!!! Never went over 193 and cooled back down to 180 quickly after the radiator fan turned on. |
Daryl32 |
May 2 2020, 08:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I'm sorta old too...but still playing with cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I finished my SBC conversion this summer. Mostly Renegade conversion parts. Mine has their belt driven water pump set up. Stock 914 wiring harness with just a few simple mods to run the fuel pump without the ECU and to light the alternator idiot light. Plenty of help available here on the World. I could not have done mine without this forum. Dick how are you doing. Being driving the 914 for the last week on and off, giving it a shack down. What tranny mounts are you running? I thing the ones in the car are worn out and not sure solid ones are the way to go? Daryl. |
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