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> Only 167 Bumblebees and 105 Creamsicle remain?
billh1963
post Jan 21 2020, 05:29 AM
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See the description of the Creamsicle being shown at Amelia Island.

Current car description:

https://werksreunion.com/carsDetails/197491420LECanAm-1

The car in question:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;hl=Creamsicle

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http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...msicle&st=0
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post Jan 22 2020, 11:16 AM
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So this one did die but was brought back from the dead hence the salvage title.
So does it make it a zombie? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Bloomington Gold Definition:
Is over 20 years old.
Can pass a road test over 10 miles
Remains over 50% unrestored, un-refinished, or unaltered. (Fails here)
Retains finishes good enough to use as a color guide for restoration of a car just like it.

AACA judging guidelines regarding HPOF:
A vehicle may be entirely ‘original’ or it may have certain original features such as paint, chassis, upholstery, engine compartment, etc. that are essentially as delivered.
(Fails pretty much all of this)

The one common consensus from almost every classic / antique judging I can find:

"The first rule of survivor cars is their original paint job. You cannot paint a collector car and still call it a survivor anymore than you can castrate a horse and still call it a stallion. Something is fundamentally different in both cases, although the horse has better reasons to be a lot sadder about the changes in his life.

The paint job has to be the original finish, complete with orange peel and a thin layer of actual paint in many cases from the factories of the past. The car will be measured by its ability to have survived decades with nothing more than a wax job on its paint surface."


This car is not a survivor - End of story
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billh1963   Only 167 Bumblebees and 105 Creamsicle remain?   Jan 21 2020, 05:29 AM
poorsche914   When I read "An authentic stock survivor, thi...   Jan 21 2020, 07:42 AM
KELTY360   When I read "An authentic stock survivor, th...   Jan 21 2020, 12:53 PM
SirAndy   When I read "An authentic stock survivor, thi...   Jan 21 2020, 02:36 PM
TonyA   My father always said to beware of slick dressers ...   Jan 21 2020, 08:14 AM
billh1963   Maybe he's going off the number of cars in the...   Jan 21 2020, 08:46 AM
mepstein   Jamie did a nice job fixing up that car but I reme...   Jan 21 2020, 08:56 AM
KELTY360   Jamie did a nice job fixing up that car but I rem...   Jan 21 2020, 12:40 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   wow that is a new way of piecing a 914 fender...   Jan 21 2020, 03:45 PM
Jett   Weird motivation to mislead... Bad karma   Jan 21 2020, 09:44 AM
sixnotfour   same kinda thing happened to a viper green 76 I so...   Jan 21 2020, 10:09 AM
krazykonrad   How many Bumblebees and Creamsicles were originall...   Jan 21 2020, 11:16 AM
sb914   How many Bumblebees and Creamsicles were original...   Jan 21 2020, 11:22 AM
914werke   I remember that repair! Jeff (sixnotfour) did...   Jan 21 2020, 12:57 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   Jeff Bowlsby our resident authority who wrote the ...   Jan 21 2020, 03:46 PM
jdamiano   I have spent a lot of time the past year wrenching...   Jan 21 2020, 05:17 PM
billh1963   I have spent a lot of time the past year wrenchin...   Jan 21 2020, 05:29 PM
jdamiano   I have spent a lot of time the past year wrenchi...   Jan 21 2020, 05:40 PM
sholman5   If they are still alive then they are survivors.   Jan 21 2020, 06:41 PM
Jett   car is nice but the write-up can easily be misunde...   Jan 21 2020, 08:36 PM
Mikey914   Tommy is a good guy. We can mince words but in the...   Jan 21 2020, 09:48 PM
Chi-town   A salvage title car is not a survivor by any means   Jan 21 2020, 09:58 PM
VaccaRabite   A salvage title car is not a survivor by any mean...   Jan 21 2020, 10:28 PM
falcor75   To me a survivor car is a car that hasnt been weld...   Jan 22 2020, 01:25 AM
jagalyn   To me a survivor car is a car that hasnt been wel...   Jan 22 2020, 09:09 AM
sixnotfour   yup,an afternoon , with 6 guys messing with it an...   Jan 22 2020, 03:17 AM
Johny Blackstain   Exterior repaint, left rocker, right fender (back ...   Jan 22 2020, 08:40 AM
brcacti   Exterior repaint, left rocker, right fender (back...   Jan 22 2020, 03:20 PM
Blue6   Exterior repaint, left rocker, right fender (back...   Jan 22 2020, 10:34 AM
mepstein   Exterior repaint, left rocker, right fender (bac...   Jan 22 2020, 10:39 AM
poorsche914   Exterior repaint, left rocker, right fender (back...   Jan 22 2020, 10:40 AM
Rav914   I learned a new word this morning while reading th...   Jan 22 2020, 10:46 AM
Chi-town   So this one did die but was brought back from the ...   Jan 22 2020, 11:16 AM
Johny Blackstain   I didn't mean to cause any issues, just trying...   Jan 22 2020, 11:29 AM


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