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> 1974 914 - Tig welding and Metalshaping saved it! Back on the road!
TRS63
post Feb 1 2021, 08:07 AM
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Hello all,

member and owner of a 1974 1,8l since a few months, I still did not introduced myself.. now correcting it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

First about myself: I am a french guy living in Stuttgart, 32 years old, mechanical engineer but my real passions are metalshaping and aircooled VWs and Porsche (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

After dreaming about a 914 since years, I decided end of last year that it was time to fulfill the dream and after seeing a few 914s, I bough that one.

About the car: originally from the US (sadly I know nothing about its history there), it is a 1974 1,8l 914 originally phoenix red. It was sometimes repainted, before 1991 when it was imported to the UK. It ran there until 2009, where it found its way back to Germany. And since october with me!

It is far from perfect but a good driver, which was my goal, as I want to enjoy it on the road during the restoration of my karmann ghia (for the curious: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...&highlight= ).

my plan:
-drive drive drive drive (made 1000miles the first month with it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) )
-in the future: repair the rust, paint it original color back, improve the handling (it still has no sway bars, shocks are quite old, frame stiffener will be ordered,..), some interior modification,.. goal is to keep it usable on the street, while lightening it where possible and putting some more power (I am in love with the sound of a 6 but might keep it a big 4 for weight and legal reasons..).

Some pictures:
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cheers

Antoine
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post Feb 1 2021, 09:34 AM
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Nice looking 914 Antoine. All those mods are a slippery slope. Maybe just enjoy the car for what it is for awhile after maintaining it to factory spec.
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post Feb 1 2021, 09:41 AM
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post Feb 1 2021, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Feb 1 2021, 09:34 AM) *

Nice looking 914 Antoine. All those mods are a slippery slope. Maybe just enjoy the car for what it is for awhile after maintaining it to factory spec.


You are so right ! That is why my plan is just as you say : first enjoying it, correcting what is necessary on the way (car was driven maximum 300 miles a year the last 10 years..), learning how it is and what I feel I need in the future.. but let’s first enjoy!

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post Feb 1 2021, 10:25 AM
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My 72 came without sway bars, and it was fun. Then I joined this group and the next thing I knew I had sway bars, front torsion bars, rear springs, brake mods, and shifting mods. The slope is slippery... But dang, it is a really freaking fun slope.
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post Feb 1 2021, 11:00 AM
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Congratulations Antoine @TRS63!
Nice start with 914! Looks nice and clean. Yes just drive it and enjoy while doing some upgrade one at a time!
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post Feb 1 2021, 11:18 AM
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Welcome aboard, another fine craftsman in the ranks. Your work on the Ghia rocks!!
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post Feb 1 2021, 11:37 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) yes drive drive drive enjoy!
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post Feb 1 2021, 06:17 PM
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nice car TRS63

love the bug in the background.

surprised it does not have sway bars.
i once got told all 74 1.8s & 2.0s came with sway bars.
(source my old mechanic way back in the early 90s in chicago).
an old wives tale?

wouldn't worry about the colour. $.
though i do like phoenix red since i got one, same as yours in that colour.

sway bars/shocks make a difference in the here and now.
not too hard to install. front one might need some holes drilled in the wheel wells or they might be already there. just redid all the suspension / sway bar bushings on mine and had the fuel tank out so eyeballed it all again. having all that back in order has made a night and day difference to the car.
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post Feb 2 2021, 03:01 AM
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Thanks to all of you for the kind answers and the warm welcome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

@930cabman : thanks a lot, that's the kind of feedback that motivates me even more! I am only doing it as a hobby but enjoying it a lot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

@wonkipop : Thanks, the bug was my dailydriver for the last 4 years, and might become it again, well half time with the 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
it has no sway bars and no holes for it in the front, so I need to order all the parts and then plan one long weekend to remove the tank, clean everything, weld the sway supports front and back, and then mount everything. But no emergency, I learn to know the car as is and will improve it when time comes!

Speaking of what, I will share what I did in my first 2 months of ownership (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I had once some water in due to the front seal being in bad condition.. so I changed the seal:
-before:
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-and after:
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and then I had the suspicion that water came under the "noise isolation" of the floor so startet to check:
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and of course water under it:
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so I removed it all (was already planned, to save some weight..):
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.thesamba.com-24690-1612256457.7.jpg)

but luckily it was in good condition under it and only with some surface rust. So I just cleaned it, treated where there was surface rust:
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and then a fresh coat of paint:
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and the last step was removing the engine bay isolation, as it's so heavy and prone to keep humidity. It was indeed not so nice:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.thesamba.com-24690-1612256460.12.jpg)

so cleaned under it, remove the glue and a fresh coat of paint:
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post Feb 2 2021, 03:53 AM
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Bonjour Antoine,

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Hope to see you on the autobahn this spring! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Looks like you have a real solid 914 there.

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Looks like a great car, congrats!
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A lot of my family lives in Korntal.

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Nice find! That is a clean 914 and you are doing well to preserve it.
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To an outsider, you just bought a used car. But to us here on 914World, you bought much more than a car. You bought an addiction. Ask me how I know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Congrats on your new 914, it’s a beauty.

Thrilled when a young fellow like you takes the plunge.

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Stuttgart? Well, you picked the right town to be a Porsche fan in!

Beautiful car. Congratulations & enjoy!!
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Looks pretty good congratulations on your purchase mine is also a 74 1.8. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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Great looking car! Congratulations!
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post Feb 3 2021, 03:17 AM
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thanks to all of you for the warm welcome!

@Arno914 : sure hope to see you! But I avoid the Autobahn, too boring..you can find me on small curvy roads (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

@ValcoOscar : you are right, I already feel it..can't stay one week without driving it.. I am jumping in it every day without salt on the roads (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

@FRUNKenstein : you are right about the city..and it's not a coincidence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/goof.gif) I actually first moved here when I had to choose a city for the end of my study because of Stuttgart being the city of Porsche (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, next step on the 914: all shifting bushings, as they all are terribly destroyed/never been changed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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QUOTE(TRS63 @ Feb 3 2021, 03:17 AM) *

thanks to all of you for the warm welcome!

@Arno914 : sure hope to see you! But I avoid the Autobahn, too boring..you can find me on small curvy roads (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

@ValcoOscar : you are right, I already feel it..can't stay one week without driving it.. I am jumping in it every day without salt on the roads (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

@FRUNKenstein : you are right about the city..and it's not a coincidence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/goof.gif) I actually first moved here when I had to choose a city for the end of my study because of Stuttgart being the city of Porsche (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, next step on the 914: all shifting bushings, as they all are terribly destroyed/never been changed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Antoine


interesting you are a mech engineer.

certain cars are engineer's cars i have noticed.
not than i am an engineer, but i sort of wanted to be one a long time back and deviated slightly. so instead i have just collaborated with one in my work for 30 years.

my engineer mate's taste in cars is interesting in a monocular sort of way.
SAAB, SAAB, SAAB, SAAB.......and now he doesn't know what to do since its all over.
he started with a SAAB 99 EMS way back when.

when the renault clio 172s and 182s came out in aus, it was engineers who picked them all up. that was how i found out how good those things were. went to lunch with an engineer in brisbane. that was a great ride to lunch that one. went out and got a 172 straight away. still got it.

a lot of engineers also drove citroens. how i got my intro to those cars.
have a citroen xm v6 stashed away thanks to an engineer.
a 914 is a walk in the park to work on compared to that.
but when it goes,....its an engineering masterpiece.
i've notice these days that a lot of ex mechanics now own the xm in its late middle age phase. you need to be very handy with a spanner and have time to keep one on the road.

as is the 914.
a 1.8 914 in american spec is a radical piece of kit on all fronts.
forward thinking stuff. maybe not fast (in a straight line). but its german thinking at its best.
apart from the rust problem.
(back about 30 years ago when i first had the 914 in australia, the only folks who offered me enthusiast comments were.......engineers - the rest of them were telling me to park my vw somewhere else).

you are going to enjoy this car.
its got everything that is good about a bug and its got everything thats bad about a bug fixed. not that bugs are bad. i had one just like yours as my first car.
powder blue 64.

whats the vintage on your bug mate. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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