1974 914 - Tig welding and Metalshaping saved it! Back on the road! |
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1974 914 - Tig welding and Metalshaping saved it! Back on the road! |
TRS63 |
Jan 4 2022, 02:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 14-September 20 From: Germany - Stuttgart Member No.: 24,690 Region Association: Europe |
Small update :
We have a welded in engine mount: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.thesamba.com-24690-1641285460.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.thesamba.com-24690-1641285460.2.jpg) And I got a "new" outer suspension console..well just need to disassemble it : (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.thesamba.com-24690-1641285461.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.thesamba.com-24690-1641285461.4.jpg) Stay tuned, I hope to make some serious hours in the shop in January ! Antoine |
Dion |
Jan 4 2022, 05:45 AM
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RN Group: Members Posts: 2,764 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Good luck with taking the console apart. Looks good from the outside. Hopefully just as decent on the inside.
Coming along nicely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Superhawk996 |
Jan 7 2022, 04:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,804 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Trust you're already doing this, if not, keep track of the entire chassis squareness not just the local position of the suspension console.
Getting that outer console located properly is key to wheelbase, camber, and toe. Triple check and then check again before final welding. Learn from my mistake. Somewhere along the line I got over anxious and ended up with 4.3mm of shrinkage in Z height. Weld slowly. I now cool every weld to near room temp before proceeding to the next and haven't had a problem since. It's painfully slow but better than shrinking something. |
Dion |
Jan 7 2022, 04:19 PM
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RN Group: Members Posts: 2,764 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
[quote name='Superhawk996' date='Jan 7 2022, 02:06 PM' post='2972772']
Trust you're already doing this, if not, keep track of the entire chassis squareness not just the local position of the suspension console. Getting that outer console located properly is key to wheelbase, camber, and toe. Triple check and then check again before final welding. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That console piece candidate turned out really nice. Nice rustproofing technique. Were you able to save the tie in pieces? Obviously your skilled to make new ones. Very nice progress. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Freezin 914 |
Jan 8 2022, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 855 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 17,687 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Looking great! Keep up the hard work. Very inspiring! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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TRS63 |
Jan 8 2022, 05:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 14-September 20 From: Germany - Stuttgart Member No.: 24,690 Region Association: Europe |
Thanks a lot Dion and Superhawk996, any advice is always worth it !! I am over measuring everything to make sure it stays square and I am forcing me to take even more time but I know it's crucial, thanks again for the reminder !!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Dion, I did not manage to save totally the connecting pieces..but I made some templates of them so either I will repair them or make new ones..we will See what works best (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
@Freezin914: thanks for following along and happy you like it ! Bests Antoine |
Superhawk996 |
Jan 25 2022, 06:55 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,804 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Yup, all those repairs look very familiar to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
You're cranking along nicely. I hope spring comes for your early this year so that you won't be working in that cold work space! Keep going! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
Dion |
Feb 4 2022, 08:37 AM
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RN Group: Members Posts: 2,764 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Great fabrication! Looking really nice. It seems like quick progress. Keep rocking it out.
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tygaboy |
Feb 4 2022, 08:51 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,290 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
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StarBear |
Feb 4 2022, 10:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
@TRS63 Antoine - Most excellent passion and effort; I'm really enjoying your adventure and admiring your patience and work.
Two questions - I'm embarking on a similar adventure though a) on a WAY much smaller scale and b) without the facility, equipment or skill to do what you're doing. I've made a template of a patch for a spot at the back of the left side clamshell (see photos). 1. It looks like the metal there is 10 guage, maybe 12 (?). Can you confirm? The shop to do the work will custom fabricate the piece. Also, presume cold-rolled sheet steel? I'm thinking TIG welding but would MIG be sufficient (and quicker e.g. cheaper)? 2. The area just forward of the jack triangle might also need a bit of flat sheet, like a corner of the floor pan from your photos? Thanks ever so much! The cancer cut out (very localized - from "the long ago time" of daily driving grit and salt accumulation behind the rocker panel): The template mockup: The template in place: |
Root_Werks |
Feb 11 2022, 10:36 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,319 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So cool to see the inside of 914 areas never would have thought to see.
Really doing a great job, again, thanks for sharing the project and pictures! |
Arno914 |
Feb 15 2022, 09:23 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: 13-May 20 From: near Frankfurt, Germany Member No.: 24,260 Region Association: Germany |
Awesome work, Antoine! And so many "inside" pictures of the 914. Very valuable.
I remember seeing pictures of the car when you had purchased it. One would never have expected to see such an amount of brown, right? Don´t forget, the next "Celette" is only 2 hours away from you - if you want to be sure. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Keep on the good work! Arno |
Arno914 |
Feb 15 2022, 09:23 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: 13-May 20 From: near Frankfurt, Germany Member No.: 24,260 Region Association: Germany |
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